# NotfooledbyW, You Colossal Clod

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 10, 2014, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975 "2014-02-10T14:55:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/101 "2014-02-13T08:45:37Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Same thing here. I have seen NO evidence of Obama worship; I do remember the Reagan era and saw plenty of evidence of Reagan worship (and still do).
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> Oh, yeah, there are artists who drew Obama as Jesus, etc. Name a public figure who hasn’t had someone do that, really. :smack:

…and that’s got _what_ to do with the price of tea in China?

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/102 "2014-02-13T10:36:30Z")

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> [@NotfooledbyW](#):
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> (-John Mace 02-01-2014 09:42 PM) As much as I feel for the Egyptian people, and wish them the very best, the idea that Morsi, a member of THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, wasn’t going to tilt the country in an Islamist direction is, well, laughable. I don’t care what he said during the election. It was THE MUSLIM FREAKIN’ BROTHERHOOD!!! \<“Cite”

For crying out loud, learn how to fucking quote! It’s not rocket science.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/103 "2014-02-13T13:00:45Z")

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> [@NotfooledbyW](#):
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> So J.Mace understands all along during our conversation over there that Morsi was tilting the country in an Islamist direction but sides with all the proponents _(Shodan, Human Action, Dasmoocher to name a few)_ of forcing US ‘STANDARDS’ for democratic elections onto the Egyptian people that he claims in the very same sentence to ‘feel for’ and wish them the very best.

Yep. In fact I’m surprised you didn’t quote the post I made where I advocated dropping nuclear bombs on them if they didn’t do what I wanted to “force” them to do.

Which reminds me of this beaut:

> [@NFBW](#):
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> I would not impose that on the Egyptian people who do not want it either. That is where I differ from Human Action.

> [@John Mace](#):
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> HA has not said he would “impose” that on the Egyptian people.

> [@NFBW](#):
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> I didnt say HA said it.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/104 "2014-02-13T13:50:28Z")

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> [@NotfooledbyW](#):
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> Any sane, rational, clear headed American who wishes the best for the Egyptians going through a revolution and transition from authoritarian rule to democracy would cheer the second revolt in Egypt and toss out the ‘imposers’ of an “Islamist” instead of a rights and freedom “DIRECTION” for the proud and courageous people of Egypt.

Look, clown - a military coup that overthrows a democratically elected leader is not a transition from authoritarian rule to democracy - it’s the other way 'round.

Cripes, you are So. Fucking. Stupid.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/105 "2014-02-13T14:00:51Z")

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Know who else was elected democratically?

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/106 "2014-02-13T14:17:55Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> For crying out loud, learn how to fucking quote! It’s not rocket science.

Won’t help, I’m afraid. People have been yelling this at him forever and he still has no clue how to properly use the quote function. The abortions he comes up with when trying to appoximate what should be nested quotes are quite horrible.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/107 "2014-02-13T14:49:45Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Know who else was elected democratically?

W? Obama? Hitler?

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/108 "2014-02-13T15:00:23Z")

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Juan Perez.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/109 "2014-02-13T15:14:11Z")

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> [@NotfooledbyW](#):
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> Any sane, rational, clear headed American who wishes the best for the Egyptians going through a revolution and transition from authoritarian rule to democracy would cheer the second revolt in Egypt and toss out the ‘imposers’ of an “Islamist” instead of a rights and freedom “DIRECTION” for the proud and courageous people of Egypt.

How quickly we choose to forget history.

During the FIRST election in Egypt, every new political party was allowed to run their own person, I think there were a dozen or so candidates. None of them received 50% or more of the votes, so they had to have a SECOND election between the two top vote-getters, the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD or MUBARAK CRONY. Hell of a choice, have your mother’s head chopped off or have your own head chopped off. It’s like voting between Hitler and Stalin.

I do think Hussain el’Obama inspired the Arab Spring … although “the most beautiful woman in the whole world”, Hillary Clinton, deserves sainthood for her part in these events.

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/110 "2014-02-13T15:17:50Z")

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Who the hell is ‘Hussain el’Obama’?

And yes I realize you are just being one of those ‘Obama is a Muslim’ idiots and an idiot in general.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/111 "2014-02-13T15:20:27Z")

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President Obama is an Irish-Hawaiian, and a credit to all Irish-Hawaiians … you must be a “special” kind of idiot to not know that.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/112 "2014-02-13T15:41:23Z")

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Sorry - I realize this is probably a stupid question, but frankly I’m scared to actually engage my brain in this neighborhood for fear of damaging it, so could someone just tell me so I can play along: is NFW claiming to be conservative or liberal? Thanks.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/113 "2014-02-13T16:01:06Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> President Obama is an Irish-Hawaiian, and a credit to all Irish-Hawaiians … you must be a “special” kind of idiot to not know that.

Aren’t the O’Bamas related to the O’Donnells?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/114 "2014-02-13T16:07:45Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> Sorry - I realize this is probably a stupid question, but frankly I’m scared to actually engage my brain in this neighborhood for fear of damaging it, so could someone just tell me so I can play along: is NFW claiming to be conservative or liberal? Thanks.

Bleeding heart liberal, AFAICT, although I’m still holding out the possibility of his being a double agent.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/115 "2014-02-13T16:09:13Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> Who the hell is ‘Hussain el’Obama’?
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> And yes I realize you are just being one of those ‘Obama is a Muslim’ idiots and an idiot in general.

I think he’s actually one of them “self-hating” idiots.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/116 "2014-02-13T16:22:21Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> I think he’s actually one of them “self-hating” idiots.

I’m NOT an idiot … [adorable grin]

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/117 "2014-02-13T16:28:06Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> Hussain el’Obama

Grow up.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/118 "2014-02-13T16:59:33Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> I’m NOT an idiot … [adorable grin]

Then why do you work so hard to come across as one?

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/119 "2014-02-13T16:59:59Z")

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Aww … did I hurt somebody’s feelings … that wasn’t very Christian of me now was it. I’m sorry … gee … did I disrupt everyone’s little love-fest here. I feel like such a cad now. [Hangs head in shame] I didn’t mean to, honest.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/120 "2014-02-13T17:02:01Z")

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I see that sidekick \*\*watchwolf49 \*\*has been kicked aside… 😛

I guess that observation of conspiracy theorists being attracted to more than just one conspiracy is an accurate one.

> **[PolitiFact - Obama a Muslim? No he's not. The evidence has not changed.](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2010/aug/26/18-percent-american-public/obama-muslim-no-hes-not-evidence-has-not-changed/)**
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> President Barack Obama is a Christian, but a minority of the American public keeps telling pollsters he's a Muslim. The

As for **NotfooledbyW** , I’m on the record of telling the right to stop supporting coups in Latin America, so the same has to go with Egypt, a coup should not be supported. A quick return to democracy, with the recognition of the rights of the minorities has to be what we should press about to the military in Egypt. Really **NfbW** , an obtuse guy that on other occasions I would agree with is still an obtuse guy.

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