# NotfooledbyW, You Colossal Clod **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 10, 2014, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975 "2014-02-10T14:55:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/121 "2014-02-13T17:06:04Z")
Nice to see **watchwolf49** openly admit to trolling. That’s usually the beginning of the end. As for **NFbW** , I can’t speak to whether he’s the _most_ pig-headedly annoying poster we’ve had but one-note dogmatics usually flame out much earlier than this and get banned. **NFbW** manages to stay within the rules and thus continues to regale us with his own personal bizarre brand of political analysis. He’s a bit like the Terminator: He can’t be bargained with. He can’t be reasoned with. He doesn’t understand logic, or citations, or reality. And he absolutely will not stop, ever, until the thread is dead. And the toadying! I mean, I’m probably one of the stronger Obama supporters on this board (albeit hardly an unqualified one) and yet every time I look at the word “masterful” in that Syria thread I think “You utter suckass”. Whenever he weighs in on a subject, even though he’s usually ostensibly on the same side as I am, I usually give up posting because frankly I don’t want to fight a two-front war by having to deal with both the “everything Obama does is wrong” crowd and his equally irrational “everything Obama does is right” nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/122 "2014-02-13T17:16:40Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > As for **NFbW** , I can’t speak to whether he’s the _most_ pig-headedly annoying poster we’ve had but one-note dogmatics usually flame out much earlier than this and get banned. **NFbW** manages to stay within the rules and thus continues to regale us with his own personal bizarre brand of political analysis. He did get suspended for a month. Then when he came back, he bumped all his stupid threads so he could continue to tell us all the “masterful” things that Obama has been doing. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/123 "2014-02-13T17:55:37Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > He’s a bit like the Terminator: He can’t be bargained with. He can’t be reasoned with. He doesn’t understand logic, or citations, or reality. And he absolutely will not stop, ever, until the thread is dead. _:golf clap:_ Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/124 "2014-02-13T18:05:13Z")
> [@NotfooledbyW](#): > > So J.Mace understands all along during our conversation over there that Morsi was tilting the country in an Islamist direction but sides with all the proponents _(Shodan, Human Action, Dasmoocher to name a few)_ of forcing US ‘STANDARDS’ for democratic elections onto the Egyptian people that he claims in the very same sentence to ‘feel for’ and wish them the very best. Look out guys. Now the people who have commented on this thread will be added to his Nixonian list of enemies. Although, this quote does nicely demonstrate his lack of reading comprehension. > [@Gyrate](#): > > Nice to see **watchwolf49** openly admit to trolling. That’s usually the beginning of the end. > > As for **NFbW** , I can’t speak to whether he’s the _most_ pig-headedly annoying poster we’ve had but one-note dogmatics usually flame out much earlier than this and get banned. **NFbW** manages to stay within the rules and thus continues to regale us with his own personal bizarre brand of political analysis. > > He’s a bit like the Terminator: He can’t be bargained with. He can’t be reasoned with. He doesn’t understand logic, or citations, or reality. And he absolutely will not stop, ever, until the thread is dead. > > And the toadying! I mean, I’m probably one of the stronger Obama supporters on this board (albeit hardly an unqualified one) and yet every time I look at the word “masterful” in that Syria thread I think “You utter suckass”. Whenever he weighs in on a subject, even though he’s usually ostensibly on the same side as I am, I usually give up posting because frankly I don’t want to fight a two-front war by having to deal with both the “everything Obama does is wrong” crowd and his equally irrational “everything Obama does is right” nonsense. Good comparison with the Terminator, although my mental picture of him would look more like the Energizer Bunny, rather than Arnold Schwarzenegger, spinning his wheels and beating his drum of stupidity. As already pointed out, you have to agree with not only his positions, but with his bizarre logic also, or else “You are wrong”. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/125 "2014-02-13T18:12:39Z")
Don’t clap too hard, you’re on that list too \>\_\> ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/126 "2014-02-13T19:23:46Z")
Interesting … not one comment on my analysis of the elections in Egypt … thank you all for agreeing with me and **NFbW**. I like Obama, 5% cut in my taxes let’s me spend another week in Key West this year. Trolling the anklebiters, that’s rich … ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/127 "2014-02-13T19:59:52Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > Juan Perez. Love his coffee. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/128 "2014-02-13T20:09:00Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Nice to see **watchwolf49** openly admit to trolling. That’s usually the beginning of the end. The truly depressing part, as I think I’ve mentioned to him before, is that he’s just not very _good_ at it. I’ve asked him to up his game, but I don’t think he’ll ever figure out how to effectively troll. Just keeps on bringing that tired, weak, played-out shtick. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/129 "2014-02-13T20:25:06Z")
I have conducted statistical analysis on relative trolling rates on the SDMB, with the assistance of renowned statistician Marge N. Overra, and the results largely support the expected outcomes. On days ending with a “y”, **NFBB** far and away exceeds the norms for trollistic postication, with a ratio of an astonishing 23.1%. However, there are occassions when this is exceeded by several orders of magnitude by other posters. By an odd coincidence, the relative prevalence of the word “regards” is an precise correlate to that phenomenon! We are currently considering various forms of data analysis to determine the exact cause of the otherwise puzzling fact. ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/130 "2014-02-13T20:42:21Z")
I don’t think **NfbW** ’s a troll. He comes across as a True Believer, but the main thing he believes in is his infallibility - a not uncommon ailment 'round these parts. It’s just his political alignment that’s unusual. Infer from that what you will. Edit: Okay, in fairness, his political alignment and his, er, joie de vivre. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/131 "2014-02-13T21:29:01Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Bleeding heart liberal, AFAICT, although I’m still holding out the possibility of his being a double agent. His secret agent codename is **FooledbyNotfooledbyW**. Agent Double-O Six-and-a-half. Or, maybe that’s his IQ and not ID. Hard to tell with all his typos. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/132 "2014-02-13T22:34:38Z")
> [@Randolph](#): > > I don’t think **NfbW** ’s a troll. He comes across as a True Believer, but the main thing he believes in is his infallibility - a not uncommon ailment 'round these parts. It’s just his political alignment that’s unusual. Infer from that what you will. > > Edit: Okay, in fairness, his political alignment and his, er, joie de vivre. Well, I agree he isn’t a troll, but his political alignment isn’t that far out of the mainstream of the lunatic fringe of the SDMB, if there is such a thing. And that’s one of the things that still gives me hope, so to speak, about the SDMB. There still exists a hard core of true believers who can still recognize delirium even when it appears in one of their own. It is unsurprising that folks like **XT** , who holds the distinction of first Pitting our pal, or **John Mace** and others who generally come across as rational even when they disagree, made the diagnosis of Internet Crackpot as soon as they did. But I am struck, as I sometimes am, that even (for example) **Dissonance** and **RedFury** and others (sorry if I missed your names - you know who you are) can also see when one who would otherwise be simpatico based only on his political positions has taken that long step off into La-la Land. Like I say, it gives me hope. At least there still exists on the SDMB those who can distinguish between debate, even heated debate, and delusion. Anyway, back to the Pitting. **NotfooledbyW** , what is the source of your delusions of adequacy? Were you dropped on your head as a child, or was it more recent? Regards, Shodan PS - **dasmoocher** , I don’t want you to think I missed your contributions to the effort to keep **NotfooledbyW** from making all our heads explode, but I am sorry I don’t know much about your political positions. So I am not sure if I should include you in the moderate liberal, moderate, or the extreme hard far-right neo-fascist Republican we-do-whatever-we-are-told-as-long-as-it’s-cruel camp to which I belong. In any case, thanks for your contributions, which I have been reading with interest. - S ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2014, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/133 "2014-02-14T02:59:32Z")
> [@Randolph](#): > > I don’t think **NfbW** ’s a troll. Exactly. No need to over-think this. He’s an idiot. That’s the simplest explanation. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/134 "2014-02-14T16:08:30Z")
Yeah, sure, but what a bromance you guys had, huh? Loathe at first sight. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/135 "2014-02-17T14:01:28Z")
Now the silly twit can’t code a quote. Just when I thought he couldn’t get any more irritating. Along with the usual other irritating nonsense - **John Mace** has responded to his claim that he never argued that it was not a coup by producing the quote where he said it was arguably not a coup. How do you debate someone who does not accept the syllogism of “If A is true, then not-A is false”. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/136 "2014-02-17T15:24:32Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Now the silly twit can’t code a quote. Just when I thought he couldn’t get any more irritating. > > Along with the usual other irritating nonsense - **John Mace** has responded to his claim that he never argued that it was not a coup by producing the quote where he said it was arguably not a coup. How do you debate someone who does not accept the syllogism of “If A is true, then not-A is false”. > > Regards, > Shodan The funny thing is that was just a few days ago, long after he went a tirade claiming he never argued it wasn’t a coup. Well, the first time he went on that tirade, that is. He brings it up again yesterday, despite the fact that he just said it was arguably not a coup a few days before. Perhaps when he wrote “arguably” he really meant “not arguably”. In Fooled-speak, a word means “just what he chooses it to mean - neither more nor less.” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/137 "2014-02-17T15:36:14Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Perhaps when he wrote “arguably” he really meant “not arguably”. In Fooled-speak, a word means “just what he chooses it to mean - neither more nor less.” Maybe he’s from Bizarro-World? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/138 "2014-02-17T18:29:30Z")
In real life, I bet he makes distinctions between saying _Yes_ in agreement and _nodding his head_ in agreement. Picture him at a neighborhood BBQ: “You are wrong to assume that I agreed with that statement [after it’s been shown to be incorrect], because I never said ‘Yes’. I only nodded my head when you said it and you can’t prove to me that I nodded my head. I just looked down at my shoes several times, but I never looked at my shoes…because they were already tied. So there! **John Mace** is failed!” Neighbors: “Who’s **John Mace**?” ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/139 "2014-02-17T20:53:12Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Neighbors: “Who’s **John Mace**?” Hmmm. You cold start a book with a line like that… 🙂 Oh, and I got a bit tripped up by his crappy coding. He didn’t actually say “it was not a coup”, that was someone else he quoted (if you can call his inability to code, quoting). But once again, he endorsed that view. ---
**Author:** ![toofs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@toofs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toofs)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975/140 "2014-02-17T21:45:27Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Maybe he’s from Bizarro-World? Nope. Simply a window licker. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notfooledbyw-you-colossal-clod/680975.md?page=8)