# Nothing Ever Comes to No Good Up On Choctaw Ridge (Mysteries in pop music) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 14, 2007, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012 "2007-12-14T17:31:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rube_E.Tewesday)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/21 "2007-12-14T18:49:25Z")
[QUOTE=Yllaria] Didn’t Rico shoot Tony? At least that’s what I thought the final verse implied. [/QUOTE] Probably, but the final verse works just as well if Tony shot Rico and got the chair or life in Sing Sing. (Working on the assumption that there was some reason for asking the question, which may not be a safe assumption.) ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/22 "2007-12-14T18:58:52Z")
[QUOTE=The New and Improved Superman] Can you elaborate? I don’t think I’ve ever heard an explanation for that song… Anyway, what about **Louie Louie**? Did anyone ever figure out what the hell that song was about? Certainly people drove themselves crazy trying. **A Day In the Life** - What was the news that day, oh boy? What was that all about? [/QUOTE] Well, it’s been awhile since I saw the interview (it was on VH1, I think) but “I won’t do that” reiterates the last thing he said he wouldn’t do. For instance, in the first verse he says “. . .but I’ll never forget the way you feel right now . . .” Did that make sense? I totally got it after I heard it explained but it sure wasn’t clear to me before. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/23 "2007-12-14T19:01:11Z")
**ArizonaTeach** is right on the money… this isn’t a “Who put the bop in the bop-sh-bop?” type query. That’s not really a mystery to be unravelled. Who’s so vain is a fair response, although it’s really kind of a mix between the song and real life. The victim at the Copacabana is _exactly_ what I was thinking of – a mystery wholly within the world of the song. ---
**Author:** ![SSG\_Schwartz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SSG\_Schwartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SSG_Schwartz)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/24 "2007-12-14T19:07:57Z")
[QUOTE=WOOKINPANUB] What’t the one thing Meatloaf won’t do for love? (I’ve actually heard the explanation but never would have figured it out myself) [/QUOTE] He will never lie to you Never forget the way you feel right now Never forgive himself if we don’t go all the way tonight Never do it better than he does it with you Or something like that SSG Schwartz ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/25 "2007-12-14T19:26:34Z")
[QUOTE=Finagle] Who wrote the book of love? [/QUOTE] Eh, who cares. The book of love is long and boring anyway, and nobody can lift the damned thing. > [@](#): > > A Day In the Life - What was the news that day, oh boy? What was that all about? Not sure what you mean. The first verse is about a friend of John’s who was decapitated in car crash, and John read about it in the news (He blew his mind out in car/he hadn’t noticed that the light had changed–he blew through a red light). The final verse was about all the holes they counted at Blackburn Lancashire, and how they planned to fill the holes. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/26 "2007-12-14T19:28:04Z")
[QUOTE=Bricker] **ArizonaTeach** is right on the money… this isn’t a “Who put the bop in the bop-sh-bop?” type query. That’s not really a mystery to be unravelled. [/QUOTE] Sure it is! Who was that man? I’d like to shake his hand! He made my baby fall in love with me! ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/27 "2007-12-14T19:32:33Z")
[QUOTE=Bricker] We never learn what Billy Joe McAllister was throwing off the Tallahatchee bridge. [/QUOTE] Someone ought to start a thread. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/28 "2007-12-14T19:32:34Z")
You know, come to think of it, I don’t think Kenneth ever did tell us what the frequency was. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/29 "2007-12-14T19:39:07Z")
What is God’s Plan? Are Mages human, and if so, why was nothing written about them in God’s Plan? When will they start with the Keeping Secrets books already? [sorry] ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/30 "2007-12-14T19:45:58Z")
[QUOTE=faithfool] Do we know who made the **Lights Go Out in Georgia**? [/QUOTE] Yeah, the big-bellied sheriff and the judge who “said guilty to a make-believe crime,” and whose supper was waiting at home: \*Well, they hung my brother before I could say The tracks he found while on his way To Andy’s house and back that night were mine. . . . That’s the night the lights went out in Georgia That’s the night they hung an innocent man . . . .\* So no mystery there . . . . ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/31 "2007-12-14T20:05:38Z")
[QUOTE=Jodi] Yeah, the big-bellied sheriff and the judge who “said guilty to a make-believe crime,” and whose supper was waiting at home: \*Well, they hung my brother before I could say The tracks he found while on his way To Andy’s house and back that night were mine. . . . That’s the night the lights went out in Georgia That’s the night they hung an innocent man . . . .\* So no mystery there . . . . [/QUOTE] Well, there’s the mystery of no forensics or ballistics tests, which would have proved that the bullet that killed Andy Warlow didn’t come from her brother’s gun, or perhaps shown that the time of death was much earlier than the shot that was fired to flag down the Georgia Patrol. But yeah, not quite what I was thinking of, either. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mk\_VII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Mk\_VII](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mk_VII)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/32 "2007-12-14T20:06:27Z")
Why _ **does** _ it always rain on him? ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/33 "2007-12-14T20:10:29Z")
[QUOTE=JThunder] Someone ought to start a thread. [/QUOTE] Am I the only one who thought that Billy Joe was chucking a baby off the bridge? A dead baby, but still, that’s what the hoopla was all about? ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/34 "2007-12-14T20:10:59Z")
whole songs. A Horse With no Name American Pie. How good does it feel to be free. I answer quite mysteriously are birds free from the chains of the skyway? Well are they.? Who let the dogs out? ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/35 "2007-12-14T20:28:38Z")
In “Should I Stay or Should I Go,” the speaker never reveals whether he ultimately stayed or goed. ---
**Author:** ![kurilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ea5d25/32.png) [@kurilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kurilla)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/36 "2007-12-14T20:35:09Z")
[QUOTE=Mr. Moto] If someone shot a man in Nevada just to watch him die, why would he be in prison in California? [/QUOTE] Nearest federal penitentiary? Nevada, AFAIK, only has the one attached to Nellis Air Force Base. ---
**Author:** ![Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rube_E.Tewesday)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/37 "2007-12-14T20:40:37Z")
[QUOTE=kurilla] Nearest federal penitentiary? Nevada, AFAIK, only has the one attached to Nellis Air Force Base. [/QUOTE] But he was in Folsom Prison, a state pen. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/38 "2007-12-14T20:41:56Z")
[QUOTE=pepperlandgirl] Eh, who cares. The book of love is long and boring anyway, and nobody can lift the damned thing. Not sure what you mean. The first verse is about a friend of John’s who was decapitated in car crash, and John read about it in the news (He blew his mind out in car/he hadn’t noticed that the light had changed–he blew through a red light). The final verse was about all the holes they counted at Blackburn Lancashire, and how they planned to fill the holes. [/QUOTE] I had heard there was a lot of rampant speculation as to what _precisely_ had happened. It seems apparent that somebody died - but the 4000 holes, were they bullet holes (he committed suicide), or herion needle tracks (he overdosed)? And supposedly it was Paul who died (to be replaced by a doppleganger). Okay, so it’s not a mystery _anymore_, but I know the song generated a lot of rampant speculation when it came out. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/39 "2007-12-14T20:45:09Z")
[QUOTE=Jodi] Yeah, the big-bellied sheriff and the judge who “said guilty to a make-believe crime,” and whose supper was waiting at home: \*Well, they hung my brother before I could say The tracks he found while on his way To Andy’s house and back that night were mine. . . . That’s the night the lights went out in Georgia That’s the night they hung an innocent man . . . .\* So no mystery there . . . . [/QUOTE] They found him “Guilty!” in a make believe _trial_; then the judge, if recall, slapped the sheriff on the back with a smile. So, what’s with the lights? Were they using an electric gallows? * * * Can’t believe I’m the first to say this: who shot the deputy, if it wasn’t the guy who admittedly shot the sheriff? Or was the deputy not even shot? And if not, why mention him at all? Maybe it’s supposed to be a mitigating factor: “Yeah, I shot the sheriff. But, hey – I did not shoot the deputy. Could have; gave it a pass.” ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/40 "2007-12-14T20:48:26Z")
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