# Nothing Ever Comes to No Good Up On Choctaw Ridge (Mysteries in pop music) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 14, 2007, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012 "2007-12-14T17:31:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/41 "2007-12-14T20:51:08Z")
Meant to add: Do you think the song (“Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia”) has a subtext of incestuous jealousy? That was a theme in a number of old narrative ballads; might be carried on in the American redneck narrative song tradition. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/42 "2007-12-14T20:58:30Z")
If it wasn’t Bob Marley or Eric Clapton, who did shoot the deputy? Maybe the deputy got shot by Johnny Cash in Reno. They say motiveless crimes are the hardest to solve. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/43 "2007-12-14T21:09:44Z")
Why _did_ Uncle Slayton have to leave Texas? ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/44 "2007-12-14T21:27:25Z")
[QUOTE=Rube E. Tewesday] But he was in Folsom Prison, a state pen. [/QUOTE] He wasn’t convicted of the crime in Reno, but rather of a murder in California. Either the murder was unsolved, or Nevada authorities decided not to extradite. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/45 "2007-12-14T21:35:56Z")
[QUOTE=pepperlandgirl] Eh, who cares. The book of love is long and boring anyway,… [/QUOTE] Long? Hell, it’s only four chapters ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/46 "2007-12-14T22:08:45Z")
[QUOTE=Baldwin] They found him “Guilty!” in a make believe _trial_; then the judge, if recall, slapped the sheriff on the back with a smile. So, what’s with the lights? Were they using an electric gallows? [/QUOTE] I think it might of been one of them there “metaphors.” ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/47 "2007-12-14T22:11:02Z")
I never did find out whose shirt [Major Tom](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=443802&highlight=dear+major) was wearing. I always wondered what Paul McCartney said that was so wrong as to end his relationship in “Yesterday.” Probably said the same thing to Heather Mills. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/48 "2007-12-14T22:16:23Z")
What exactly did Paul Simon do with Julio do down by the schoolyard? All we know is that it was against the law and the mama pajama saw it. Some have speculated it was sex but I doubt that would have been put on the cover of Newsweek. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/49 "2007-12-14T22:18:44Z")
[QUOTE=The New and Improved Superman] Anyway, what about **Louie Louie**? Did anyone ever figure out what the hell that song was about? Certainly people drove themselves crazy trying. [/QUOTE] The only people who are wondering about “Louie, Louie” are the ones who have listened only to the Kingsmen’s version. The real lyrics are distinguishable in earlier recordings. See here – [http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1\_316.html](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_316.html) ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/50 "2007-12-14T22:25:00Z")
[QUOTE=Little Nemo] What exactly did Paul Simon do with Julio do down by the schoolyard? All we know is that it was against the law and the mama pajama saw it. Some have speculated it was sex but I doubt that would have been put on the cover of Newsweek. [/QUOTE] My girlfriend and I were laughing about this the other day. I suggested exposing themselves to children. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/51 "2007-12-14T22:28:16Z")
Well, there are some unresolved paternity issues in **Friend of the Devil** by The Grateful dead: _Got a wife in Chino, babe And one in Cherokee First one says she’s got my child But it don’t look like me_ ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/52 "2007-12-14T22:46:20Z")
[QUOTE=Leaffan] I always wondered what Paul McCartney said that was so wrong as to end his relationship in “Yesterday.” Probably said the same thing to Heather Mills. 😉 [/QUOTE] I figure he doesn’t know what it was himself. “One day everything was fine and the next day my suitcase is out on the lawn. I dunno, musta said something wrong.” I think the wrong thing that he said to Heather Mills was “How do you do, I’m Paul McCartney.” ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/53 "2007-12-14T22:49:48Z")
There’s something mysterious and sinister going on in [Plush](http://www.tonsoflyrics.com/category/stone-temple-pilots/) by Stone Temple Pilots: \*Where ya going to tommorrow? Where ya going with that mask I found? And I feel, and I feel When the dogs begin to smell her Will she smell alone? When the dogs do find her Got time, time, to wait for tomorrow\* Are these cadaver dogs? Why’s the guy got a mask? Is he a serial killer? ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/54 "2007-12-14T22:50:53Z")
Carly Simon claimed _You’re So Vain_ was about a composite of men. Some thought it was about Mick Jagger, but he sang backup on that album. She said the original title was _I Pity You, Ben_, and she named no particular Ben. However, she later named her son Ben. So, we still don’t know. Who really killed that guy in _Long Black Veil_? We know it wasn’t the singer, who was in the arms of his best friend’s wife. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/55 "2007-12-14T23:02:16Z")
[QUOTE=Cluricaun] My girlfriend and I were laughing about this the other day. I suggested exposing themselves to children. [/QUOTE] A radical priest comes to get him released, so you might be on to something. ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/56 "2007-12-14T23:09:01Z")
[QUOTE=pravnik] A radical priest comes to get him released, so you might be on to something. [/QUOTE] See, that was part of my argument too. It’s a natural assumption. ---
**Author:** ![maggenpye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@maggenpye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maggenpye)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/57 "2007-12-14T23:24:27Z")
Where \*do \*you go to my lovely, when you’re alone in your bed? And what method of locomotion does it entail? Sasha Distel seemed to think it involved a childhood in the back streets of Naples, do you time travel? Is the bed a TARDIS? ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/58 "2007-12-14T23:26:14Z")
[QUOTE=AskNott] Carly Simon claimed _You’re So Vain_ was about a composite of men. Some thought it was about Mick Jagger, but he sang backup on that album. She said the original title was _I Pity You, Ben_, and she named no particular Ben. However, she later named her son Ben. So, we still don’t know. [/QUOTE] 😕 She’s given out letters in the person’s name, hasn’t she? A, E, and R. Warren Beatty is the one that always seems to get the nod (Carly Simon said “There’s nothing in the song that refers to Mick” when she was duetting with Janet Jackson on another song). I’ve got one…what happened in Richard Marx’s “Hazard”? The video implies it was the sheriff, I think, but that doesn’t quite fit the context of the song at all. Regarding “Epic” - I’ve heard masturbation before, but seriously, how does **that** fit the lyrics? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/59 "2007-12-14T23:28:19Z")
[QUOTE=Bricker] We never learn what Billy Joe McAllister was throwing off the Tallahatchee bridge. [/QUOTE] It’s pretty clear from context that it was _14 k of g in a f p d_ ---
**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012/60 "2007-12-14T23:42:49Z")
_Someone left the cake out in the rain and I don’t think that I can take it 'cause it took so long to bake it and I’ll never have that recipe again Oh, no!_ [ul] [li]Who left the cake out in the rain?[/li][li]Did they do it on purpose, or what?[/li][li]It’s just a cake. Why did it take so long to bake it?[/li][li]What happened to the recipe?[/li][li]Why the angst? It’s just a cake.[/li][/ul] I could say more. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-ever-comes-to-no-good-up-on-choctaw-ridge-mysteries-in-pop-music/430012.md?page=4)