# Nothing Is Wrong Witha Low Income Guy Getting An Escort

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 8, 2012, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160 "2012-03-08T16:42:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2012, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/221 "2012-03-10T07:25:42Z")

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> [@guizot](#):
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> Who would dress up for a rendezvous in a storage unit?

_raises hand_

Dress up as -what-, I’m not sayin’…

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**Author:** ![manila](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e5b9ba/32.png) [@manila](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manila)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2012, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/222 "2012-03-10T09:20:42Z")

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I can’t understand any of this. When I was a poor penniless student all we ever did was screw around with equally penniless girls because we couldn’t afford to go anywhere and do something else.

Jarvis Cocker summed it up well in Common People!

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**Author:** ![gurujulp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba9def/32.png) [@gurujulp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gurujulp)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2012, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/223 "2012-03-10T12:35:20Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> To be fair, i suppose I’ve already demonstrated my value by showing willingness to negotiate. What’s the punch line of that old joke? “We’ve already determined what you are; now we’re just discussing price.” 😃

That’s to be fair, got it.

Now for a depressingly harsh reality- I have been present for negotiations as a driver, not an active participant, and for one east Oakland woman wearing a $300-$700 leather suit, the nine dollars she got for the twenty minute BJ without a wrap was like a punch in the throat. That’s fucked up.

The next girl dude approached didn’t even want money- just wanted to kick it for pleasure (crack)- she regaled the rest of what turned out an unlikely party with tales of being sold to her 50 yo (then 78) husband, when she was 13, he who beat her with axe handles until he got old and weak and she could lay him out with kitchenware and leave for her pleasure (crack).

I was so astounded at the window on the world that instead of counseling against crack and cheap hookers, my only actual involvement was to recommend buying larger amounts of crack at a discount, even though I was not partaking.

I would guess that dear, _dear_ **Yakuza** is getting _these_ girls from Craigslist, home of the free, and he pays good prices because it’s during the day or early eve, and they are not yet coated in a thin slime of the day’s semen…

At least he isn’t (well, this is a longshot, but at least not admittedly) leaving the woman’s 4yo children asleep and alone at 4 am for $9 earned in the back of a car as **leathersuit** did… Though encouraging spending on children has been a mainstay of Yakuza’s thread and likely libertarian candidacy.

Imaginary

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> **Yakuza** - even though honesty broke his campaign, he didn’t lose his campaign for being honest. To be fair… No. No, you are right. It was the hookers. ESCORTS, I mean.

One of either the most interesting or most horrifying (or both) times of my life- but I do have to say that while I am unsure of the specific effects on me, I would be a different person had I not witnessed these events, and thus, while horrified and fascinated, I would wish nothing different developmentally for myself, the world being as it is. Ideally I can long for perfection, as does **Yakuza** , but must needs satisfy myself with base reality- like but unlike our OP.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2012, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/224 "2012-03-10T12:39:34Z")

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> [@Scarlett67](#):
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> PS: I’m a “free girl” married to a short, poor guy.

With just One guitar…!  
slung way down low…  
Just One guitar…!  
Scram, hookers, leave the blow…

> [@Morbo](#):
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> Am I the only one saying “free girl” in my head like Dobby saying “free elf”?

Who offerred her clothes…?

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**Author:** ![Stendhal\_Syndrome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@Stendhal\_Syndrome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stendhal_Syndrome)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/225 "2012-03-10T20:37:01Z")

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I wake up at odd hours of the night to feed the doper baby and I am looking for entertaining things to read while she nurses. This is by far the best thread on dope. I cannot stop laughing and the baby just looks up at me like I am crazy.

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**Author:** ![Stendhal\_Syndrome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@Stendhal\_Syndrome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stendhal_Syndrome)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2012, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/226 "2012-03-10T20:38:06Z")

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It is 2 funny!😃

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/227 "2012-03-11T19:17:00Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> I’m worth more than $400 a month!

I’ll bid $450!

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/228 "2012-03-11T19:31:12Z")

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> [@Astroboy14](#):
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> I’ll bid $450!

Now, I get the weird feeling that we’re on The Price Is Right.

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**Author:** ![caveat\_lector](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@caveat\_lector](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caveat_lector)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/229 "2012-03-11T19:33:29Z")

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> [@Time\_Like\_Tears](#):
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> Guys, we’re getting close to being able to shut down the internet. I’ll get started on applying the checklist to other threads in IMHO and we’ll see how close we are. Sadly most of them are just so boring, with the whole honest sharing of opinions and ideas and all. I fear that everything I read after experiencing this thread is gonna be a letdown.  
> The Super Checklist of Everything We Could Possibly Ask For in an Opinion Thread
> 
> -OP whose opinion is in opposition to the general population of the SDMB  
> \*\*but it’s not the opinion he thinks is in opposition ( **WhyNot** )  
> -An opportunity to fight ignorance  
> -Well-meaning posters who compose thoughtful advice for the OP  
> -Snarky posters who provide intelligent comic relief  
> -OP (or contributing poster) justifies opinion by means that don’t come anywhere near justification of the opinion  
> \*\*God told me it was all right  
> \*\*not hurting anyone  
> -Underlying Issues®  
> -Hookers!! _jazz hands_  
> -Suggestions that OP (or contributing poster) obtain psychological evaluations and/or counseling  
> -Someone states the obvious in a way that is pertinent on the surface but can be construed as either sarcastic or even cruel depending on the reader.  
> -A moderator warning issued either to a) the OP for insulting the opinions of and/or actual contributing posters outside the pit or to b) a contributing poster for giving the OP exactly what he asked for
> 
> - OP with atrocious spelling, punctuation and/or grammar skills ( **Antinor01** )  
> \*\*who makes no effort to improve their typing despite numerous jibes to that effect  
> -OP disappears after a while without answering most of the clarifying questions asked by contributing posters

NSFW link?

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/230 "2012-03-11T19:35:58Z")

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> Now, I get the weird feeling that we’re on The Price Is Right.

I bid $401.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/231 "2012-03-11T19:48:12Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> How do you think God feels about you enabling the drug addictions of many of the escorts you frequent? And make no mistakes, $100 escorts are virtually _all_ addicted to drugs of some kind.

> [@Yakuza](#):
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> God is understanding, he knows why I associate with escorts so therefore I am not guilty of any sin. I don’t associate with escorts who I know have a drug addiction.

> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Let’s say for the sake of this discussion that you suddenly became privy to some inside information that _all_ of the prostitutes you had access to were in fact drug addicts. Would that put a complete stop to any and all of your escort expenditures? Be honest.

> [@Yakuza](#):
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> Ok, **u know the answer is yes** I would still socialize with the escorts because a man needs a woman

(mybold)

> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> You say yes, but then you say you would still “socialize” with the escorts and encourage them to ‘spend their money’ more wisely. 😕
> 
> Or are you saying that you _wouldn’t_ in fact stop all escort expenditures, but rather continue paying these hookers just to “socialize” with, rather than engage in sex with?

> [@Yakuza](#):
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> No woman would want 2 socialize with me without getting paid so I make it my mission 2 stack up money so I can have some kind of interaction with a woman. I probably don’t have nothing that any woman wants. I work at a retail store. Or shall I say I have nothing a free woman wants. I’ve already explained this description of me, why are u bringing it up again?

Because you contradict yourself in your answer. You yourself said, right here, that even if you found out that the money you were giving to these prostitutes “just to hang out” was used for no other purpose than to support a drug addiction, you would still engage in the same behavior. Don’t you think God would not like this? You spending all your money just to enable some hookers to get high?

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/232 "2012-03-11T23:24:55Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> I bid $401.

That would be Ebay, then.

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**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/233 "2012-03-11T23:41:54Z")

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> [@guizot](#):
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> That would be Ebay, then.

+1 ! Would overpay for free goods again!!!111!!!

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/234 "2012-03-11T23:59:15Z")

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> [@Time\_Like\_Tears](#):
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> The Super Checklist of Everything We Could Possibly Ask For in an Opinion Thread
> 
> -OP whose opinion is in opposition to the general population of the SDMB  
> -An opportunity to fight ignorance  
> -Well-meaning posters who compose thoughtful advice for the OP  
> -Snarky posters who provide intelligent comic relief  
> -OP (or contributing poster) justifies opinion by means that don’t come anywhere near justification of the opinion  
> -Underlying Issues®  
> -Hookers  
> -Suggestions that OP (or contributing poster) obtain psychological evaluations and/or counseling  
> Surely I am missing more, but this is definitely a start to a perfect thread.

I grant you it’s got hookers, but it also needs blow.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/235 "2012-03-12T00:08:34Z")

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Boys, boys! I’m what you call a “free girl”. Just drinks and maybe a few nights on the town!

Oh, and make sure you have a good paycheck. Apparently I won’t associate with retail workers because they have nothing I want.

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**Author:** ![florez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@florez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/florez)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/236 "2012-03-12T00:33:23Z")

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I, 4 1 miss Yakuza, and wish 2 see him post here again.  
Maybe we lost him 2 another board 4 being so hard on him; the entertainment value alone was 2 die 4.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/237 "2012-03-12T01:11:24Z")

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ARGH! Nobody has answered the burning question of this thread. How in the world does he play a PS3 off a public jack with no TV? Why does he even own a PS3?!

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/238 "2012-03-12T01:41:44Z")

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> [@guizot](#):
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> That would be Ebay, then.

I was using a legitimate “Price Is Right” bidding strategy. On the show, the one closest to the actual price without going over wins. Contestants on the show will bid $1 if they think the others bid too high.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/239 "2012-03-12T02:40:02Z")

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> [@Autolycus](#):
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> How in the world does he play a PS3 off a public jack with no TV? Why does he even own a PS3?!

Humm. This is a much more difficult question than any questions concerning escorts, since the business model is pretty well documented. Pay money, get service.

The question as to way he would own a PS3 opens too large of a can of worms for this thread. Why does anyone own a PS3? Because they like games? It relieves stress? It makes up for jobs in retail?

These questions are valid, but less interesting than the question of logistics. How does one play PS3 in public without a TV, unless he’s got one of those tiny portable sets, or uses the monitor for a computer at a library and somehow isn’t getting caught.

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**Author:** ![Yakuza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/bbce88/32.png) [@Yakuza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yakuza)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/240 "2012-03-12T03:15:37Z")

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> [@florez](#):
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> I, 4 1 miss Yakuza, and wish 2 see him post here again.  
> Maybe we lost him 2 another board 4 being so hard on him; the entertainment value alone was 2 die 4.

I’m still here. I ain’t gone nowhere. I like this internet board. U can actually have a normal conversation on here. Some other internet boards have too many mindless losers on them and a lot of Christian internet boards will delete just about any topic u make that justifies sex before marriage

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