# Nothing Is Wrong Witha Low Income Guy Getting An Escort **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 8, 2012, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160 "2012-03-08T16:42:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Yakuza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/bbce88/32.png) [@Yakuza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yakuza)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/101 "2012-03-08T20:19:26Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Yeah, there was no sarcasm in this post. None in this one either. I’m finding this story more and more believable. Well 4get u then, yo hating can’t interfere with the happiness that God give me ---
**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/102 "2012-03-08T20:20:54Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > And, for everyone else, as a general rule, if you are spending HALF of your take home pay on _anything_ that’s an addiction. So what is the cure to being addicted to my house? ---
**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/103 "2012-03-08T20:25:41Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > … since he’s living rent free … I think he is saying that he is homeless. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/104 "2012-03-08T20:28:03Z")
> [@Cheshire\_Human](#): > > No good salesman would even _think_ of trying to sell a product he hadn’t tested himself. You can’t sell it if you’re not sold on it, yourself! “I’m not only the president, I’m also a lech.” ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/105 "2012-03-08T20:28:11Z")
> [@Cheshire\_Human](#): > > No good salesman would even _think_ of trying to sell a product he hadn’t tested himself. You can’t sell it if you’re not sold on it, yourself! Yes, but he’d be both getting high on his own supply AND dipping his pen in the company ink. That can’t be good for anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Time\_Like\_Tears](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/df705f/32.png) [@Time\_Like\_Tears](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Time_Like_Tears)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/106 "2012-03-08T20:28:39Z")
> [@LurkerInNJ](#): > > I think he is saying that he is homeless. That would explain a few things. If you’re (apparently voluntarily?) living on the streets you’re only going to meet women who walk the streets. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/107 "2012-03-08T20:29:22Z")
> [@Yakuza](#): > > Well 4get u then, yo hating can’t interfere with the happiness that God give me How do you think God feels about you enabling the drug addictions of many of the escorts you frequent? And make no mistakes, $100 escorts are virtually _all_ addicted to drugs of some kind. ---
**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/108 "2012-03-08T20:30:54Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > How do you think God feels about you enabling the drug addictions of many of the escorts you frequent? And make no mistakes, $100 escorts are virtually _all_ addicted to drugs of some kind. Personal experience? Cite please. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/109 "2012-03-08T20:31:11Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > But I double that anything anyone can write here will have much to do with it, one way or another. Holy shit. You’re right. I’m logging off right now, and will never post on message boards again. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/110 "2012-03-08T20:33:30Z")
> [@Yakuza](#): > > Well 4get u then, yo hating can’t interfere with the happiness that God give me You do sound like a happy guy - you say you’ve got a bad job, you’re blowing half your income on hookers, and you plan to keep doing so for another 10 or 15 years until you make enough money to start dating a prostitute. Keep living the dream! ---
**Author:** ![Yakuza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/bbce88/32.png) [@Yakuza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yakuza)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/111 "2012-03-08T20:44:01Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Okay, folks, now for something completely different. > [sub](See how many items we can add to the check-list here)[/sub] > > This OP certainly has something wrong going on. I can see certainly that this is true, but only _vaguely_ what the problem actually is. I can’t see enough detail to make a meaningfully _helpful_ diagnosis or offer any _actual specific practical_ suggestions. I mean, beyond the obvious surface-level details about the spelling and grammar and that opulent $800/mo salary. > > Now, everybody: What have I just said different than what everybody else knows about this case? Nothing, that’s what. > > Here’s a guy who can’t attract a GF and he doesn’t know why and all the responses are either > (a) snark, or > (b) vague suggestions of what he should do. > Very little that’s actually specific that he can actually go out and start doing now. > (Except possibly improving his education.) > > Getting professional counselling (as suggested by some) costs about the same per hour as prostitutes, with absolutely NO guarantee (or even likelihood) of anything useful coming from it. (Don’t ask me how I know all that.) > > Everyone “knows” that guys without much money, income, a car, or a job can’t get the girl. Yet there are guys lacking any or all these things that have GF’s or wives. > > Everyone “knows” that a guy has to be a handsome gorgeous hunk to get a GF. Yet there are not-so-good-looking-at-all guys with GF’s. > > (What’s that I read above? **WhyNot** ditched a young gorgeous college prof to set up housekeeping with an old disabled guy?) > > Everyone “knows” that a guy has to be outgoing, gregarious, witty, charming, and funny to get a GF. Yet there are shy, quiet, introverted guys who don’t talk much with GF’s. > > Everyone “knows” that the females only want “tall” guys, and short guys haven’t got a chance. Yet there are… > [sub]Uh, I’ll get back to you on that one.[/sub] > > Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, ad infinitum, ad nauseum. There are infinitely many things a guy has to do or be to get the girl that everyone “knows”, and every one of those things you’ll find guys lacking, yet they have GF’s. > > And yet… And yet… The boards are still crawling with the **Yakuza** ’s of the world who can’t get a date to save their lives. So what’s wrong with those dudes? They could be doing everything (?) right and still be sitting home alone their whole lives. Witness this quote, describing a stereotype: > > (Okay, so even Santorum managed to get married somehow. Plenty others don’t.) > > There are ugly guys with GF’s and good-(enough)-looking ones without. > There are poor guys with GF’s and well-employed financially comfy ones without. > There are jackass bastard shitheads with GF’s and genial, amiable, polite guys without. > There are drug-addled crazies with GF’s and sober intelligent guys without. > There are high-school drop-outs with GF’s and college grads without. > (Hmmmm… Is there some pattern here?) > There are short guys with… Uh, we’re still waiting on that one. Stay tuned. > > There’s been a thread around for a few years (that gets resurrected every now and then) in which posters vie for bragging rights on how recently they got laid, or how many years it’s been the last time. (It think the record was something around 40+ years.) > > There’s that on-going dating advice thread. What’s it up to now? 2500 posts or so? Has anyone written anything there that’s helped anyone? > > I’ve seen articles from Silican Valley about women who run “dating coaching” services, at exorbitant prices, to coach all the hi-tech software geniuses and electronics engineers who look sharp, dress sharp, pull $80K, drive a late-model Prius, and still can’t get a second date. > > What do any of you posters knows about what **Yakuza** issues really are, or what to do about it. If he learns to write like Winston Churchill he still won’t have a GF. Is he decent-looking? How well does he dress? A million things you-all can’t tell from his posts here. A few things you-all CAN tell, but nobody here can really tell why he can’t get a GF, or really what to do about it. Just like in that on-going dating thread. > > So half of the posters are doing just what we do in America (and maybe everywhere) with guys like that: We give them meaningless vacuous advice, bull-shit, double-talk, and lies (BSDL) and maybe some empty encouragement (somewhere out there there’s just the girl for you), and when all that fails, put-downs, snark, and heels ground in their faces. > > And we pile on the stereotyped ideas of what people really do or don’t want in relationships, all to the end of making it all the sorry guy’s own damn fault, or to deny that losers like that can even really exist at all. (Witness those two recent nearby threads that **grude** started.) > > ( **Yakuza** , how tall are you, by the way? ) > > Maybe – just maybe – Mr. **Yakuza** will find that one-in-a-million perfectly compatible fish in the sea, and live happily ever after. Or maybe not. But I double that anything anyone can write here will have much to do with it, one way or another. (Well, except maybe the suggestion to get more education, but even that’s no guarantee.) > > Okay, I’m going to click “Submit” now before I dare re-read all the above. > One… Two… Three… > Done! > > ETA: That idea to start his own escort service is a good one too, but I think he’ll first need to get some of that management experience that he’s so looking forward to in the next 10-15 years. > > More ETA: I see that a _whole lot_ of new posts have been posted in the time I spent writing all the above! So some things might get a little out of context. Now here is someone with a good perspective of life. Some people do constantly give repetitive meaningless advice on how 2 get a free girl when the truth is a lot of guys may never get a free girl or they will have 2 wait a long time 2 get one. So the only solution is 2 come up with a creative solution such as getting an escort. I never came here looking 4 advice on how 2 get a free girl because I have accepted that I can not get a free girl at this moment in my life or for perhaps the next 10 or 15 years. I posted this subject 4 the purpose of trying 2 get more people in society 2 accept that there is nothing evil about escorts. My brother hates me for associating with escorts, and there are probably other people in my life who hate me 4 this. Hopefully I can contribute 2 making this a world where escorts are accepted by more people so guys like me won’t have any family and friends problems ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/112 "2012-03-08T20:44:48Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > This isn’t the Pit, but since you asked, and a moderator (and other posters) seem to agree, I’m just going to put it plainly: > > It’s because you’re stupid and low class. You spell “you” as “u” and “to” as “2”. You admit that college was “too hard 4 me.” You say things like “I was getting dissed” and “hoes and bitches.” That’s before mentioning that you claim to be low-income, but spend half of your money on sex. These are the reasons you have a low-paying job, not the “unfair economy” that somehow made college too difficult. > > You can fix this by reading books, studying subjects of interest, refining your speech/writing, and learning a marketable skill. > Sorry, mods. I’m just trying to help. Chessic Sense, there should be no excuse to why you’d think it was okay to bluntly insult someone in this forum. Consider this a warning. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/113 "2012-03-08T20:46:21Z")
Yakuza - How do you go about finding the escorts you spend time with. Are they “streetwalkers” or do you find them via Craigslist or some other web service? Playing along that this is all sincere and as told, do you fear being arrested? Have you ever had a very negative experience with one of these girls (being robbed, getting an STD, etc)? ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/114 "2012-03-08T20:46:58Z")
> [@Duke](#): > > I don’t see what’s wrong with a low-income guy getting an Escort. It’s a reliable car, and you can get a good finance deal these days. Can I get one on a “Rent 2 Own” contract? I could use one of those, but that doesn’t sound like the deal the OP is getting. It sounds like he’s getting a “Rent 2 Rent Again” deal. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Yakuza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/bbce88/32.png) [@Yakuza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yakuza)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/115 "2012-03-08T20:50:07Z")
> [@Time\_Like\_Tears](#): > > That would explain a few things. If you’re (apparently voluntarily?) living on the streets you’re only going to meet women who walk the streets. I find my escorts online. I don’t associate with street walking prostitutes because a lot of them are drug addicts and don’t take care of themselves. Some online escorts are upscale ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/116 "2012-03-08T20:52:25Z")
> [@Yakuza](#): > > Some online escorts are upscale Not for a hundred bucks. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/117 "2012-03-08T20:54:36Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > Not for a hundred bucks. Depends on the scale. ---
**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/118 "2012-03-08T20:56:15Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > Not for a hundred bucks. $1200 escort prorated at 5 minutes = Yakuza win! ---
**Author:** ![Yakuza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/bbce88/32.png) [@Yakuza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yakuza)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/119 "2012-03-08T20:59:23Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > Yakuza - How do you go about finding the escorts you spend time with. Are they “streetwalkers” or do you find them via Craigslist or some other web service? > > Playing along that this is all sincere and as told, do you fear being arrested? Have you ever had a very negative experience with one of these girls (being robbed, getting an STD, etc)? I find my escorts on the internet. For legal purposes, I’m not doing anything illegal because money spent on escorts is for donations and socializing (know what I’m saying) I’ve never got robbed. This is why I don’t associate with a lot of different escorts because with the more escorts u meet, u never know if one is go set u up. As far as diseases, well a lot of things in life are risks. Diseases can be caught by escorts and free girls ---
**Author:** ![Yakuza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/bbce88/32.png) [@Yakuza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yakuza)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/120 "2012-03-08T21:02:52Z")
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