# Nothing Is Wrong Witha Low Income Guy Getting An Escort

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 8, 2012, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160 "2012-03-08T16:42:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/141 "2012-03-08T23:00:11Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> I have to say that becoming a retail manager by 2025 is not what we call a “stretch” goal.

Should I post about the day I reached my stretching goal? Nah.

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**Author:** ![Yakuza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/bbce88/32.png) [@Yakuza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yakuza)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/142 "2012-03-09T00:05:08Z")

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Oh, I thought it took a while to become any kind of manager

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/143 "2012-03-09T00:07:36Z")

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How old are you?

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**Author:** ![pbbth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@pbbth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pbbth)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/144 "2012-03-09T00:11:11Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> Why is it going to take you 10-15 years to become a manager? Is the competition in your store that tough? I work in retail, and store manager turnover is something in the neighborhood of 35%. Surely if you’re a good worker it wouldn’t take long to become, at least, assistant manager after only a couple of years. I have to say that becoming a retail manager by 2025 is not what we call a “stretch” goal.

And in my experience retail management isn’t pulling in a fat paycheck by any stretch of the imagination. Enough to pay the bills, yeah, but it isn’t like you are going to jump into a six figure salary from a minimum wage position. I’m not materialistic but the women I know who are don’t say things like, “I’m just waiting until I can land the manager at that Foot Locker” or “Bitch, you better stop looking at the manager at Wal-Mart, he’s mine!” They tend to be searching for men who are doctors, lawyers, bankers, etc. So even with a jump to management you aren’t all the sudden going to have a sexy bank account.

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**Author:** ![Yakuza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/bbce88/32.png) [@Yakuza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yakuza)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/145 "2012-03-09T00:18:55Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> How old are you?

27

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/146 "2012-03-09T00:37:56Z")

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> [@pbbth](#):
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> So even with a jump to management you aren’t all the sudden going to have a sexy bank account.

Hey, retail managers are able to afford to buy all sorts of women!

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/147 "2012-03-09T01:28:23Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Hey, retail managers are able to afford to buy all sorts of women!

No, just the free ones.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/148 "2012-03-09T01:37:17Z")

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Yanno, talking about the venality of women who seek out “fat paychecks” makes me so very, very glad that I’ve never had to deal with them. My wife loves me for who I am, not what I have. Same goes for my ex; horrible person though she is, she neither married nor left me for money (nor looks). ‘Course, I’m one charming motherfucker, and the language skills really get their adjectives modifyin’, if you know what I mean.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/149 "2012-03-09T01:49:29Z")

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> [@Hbns](#):
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> Personal experience?
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> Cite please.

Ok, I should have phrased that as my opinion rather than an assertion.

> [@Yakuza](#):
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> God is understanding, he knows why I associate with escorts so therefore I am not guilty of any sin. I don’t associate with escorts who I know have a drug addiction. U might say how do I know if all of them have an addiction. Well I’m not contributing 2 anyone’s drug addiction because what they do with the money is they business. Would Microsoft be guilty of enabling one of their emloyees 2 buy drugs because one of their workers have an addiction

Let’s say for the sake of this discussion that you suddenly became privy to some inside information that _all_ of the prostitutes you had access to were in fact drug addicts. Would that put a complete stop to any and all of your escort expenditures? Be honest.

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**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/150 "2012-03-09T04:06:50Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Chessic Sense, there should be no excuse to why you’d think it was okay to bluntly insult someone in this forum. Consider this a warning.

The dude straight-up asked me my opinion. I fail to see why obfuscating an opinion should be encouraged in this forum.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/151 "2012-03-09T04:10:06Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> The dude straight-up asked me my opinion. I fail to see why obfuscating an opinion should be encouraged in this forum.

Obfuscate? Are we using tabletop rules or Minds Eye Theatre?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/152 "2012-03-09T04:17:59Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Hey, retail managers are able to afford to buy all sorts of women!

First you get de store key, then you get de apron, then you get de weemen.

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**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/153 "2012-03-09T04:49:23Z")

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> [@Yakuza](#):
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> U don’t have 2 refer to escorts as animals that should be sild for cheap. That is morally wrong unless u know for certain that the escort is a bitch

> [@Yakuza](#):
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> I don’t have any rent 2 pay. **I hang out in wi-fi spots all day. I use public electrical plug ins for my electronic devices such as my android phone, portable DVD player and Playstation 3.** The only bill I have 2 pay is 4 my storage where I keep my stuff. I’ll get more into how I live in another subject but I thought I would just give u all an idea of how I save money

> [@Yakuza](#):
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> Well 4get u then, yo hating can’t interfere with the happiness that God give me

> [@Yakuza](#):
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> God is understanding, he knows why I associate with escorts so therefore I am not guilty of any sin. I don’t associate with escorts who I know have a drug addiction. U might say how do I know if all of them have an addiction. Well\*\* I’m not contributing 2 anyone’s drug addiction because what they do with the money is they business. \*\*Would Microsoft be guilty of enabling one of their emloyees 2 buy drugs because one of their workers have an addiction

> [@Yakuza](#):
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> Yea, I treat other people good for 2 important reasons, to show respect and because God expects it from me

> [@Yakuza](#):
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> **I’m not a Christian, I just worship God and believe in Heaven and Hell**

> [@Yakuza](#):
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> Yea, God told me through meditation

OK, I have tears rolling down my cheeks as I type this. I’m cancelling my lifetime sub of Seinfeld DVDs, this is comedy platinum.

Please please please please start a thread called something like “ask the storage dweller”. Actually, don’t, I’m not sure my heart can take it. Oh, what the hell, do it, I’ve got nothing better to live for anyway.

PS I love the thought of you lugging your PS3 and other gear to wi-fi hotspots all day. You have to have a shopping trolley, amirite? Covered with scrappy plastic sheeting? And one bad wheel? Please let there be one bad wheel, I think I could calmly check out with that knowledge under my belt.

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/154 "2012-03-09T05:02:35Z")

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I think we need to bestow **Yakuza** with some kind of award. He’s managed to live the Doper dream of hookers and blow to the fullest, on less than a thousand dollars a month. He could get that award gold-plated if he can somehow bring pie and figure how to work the squid in here somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Yakuza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/bbce88/32.png) [@Yakuza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yakuza)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/155 "2012-03-09T05:17:37Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Ok, I should have phrased that as my opinion rather than an assertion.
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> Let’s say for the sake of this discussion that you suddenly became privy to some inside information that _all_ of the prostitutes you had access to were in fact drug addicts. Would that put a complete stop to any and all of your escort expenditures? Be honest.

Ok, u know the answer is gonna be yes but let me explain. I would still socialize with the escorts because a man needs a woman, but I would have an even more greatet responsibility 2 try 2 changr the escort’s life around so that she can be encouraged 2 spend her money on more positve yhings like rent, a car, or 4 her child

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**Author:** ![Kaio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c68b51/32.png) [@Kaio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaio)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/156 "2012-03-09T05:31:15Z")

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> [@Time\_Like\_Tears](#):
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> The Super Checklist of Everything We Could Possibly Ask For in an Opinion Thread
> 
> -OP whose opinion is in opposition to the general population of the SDMB  
> -An opportunity to fight ignorance  
> -Well-meaning posters who compose thoughtful advice for the OP  
> -Snarky posters who provide intelligent comic relief  
> -OP (or contributing poster) justifies opinion by means that don’t come anywhere near justification of the opinion  
> -Underlying Issues®  
> -Hookers  
> -Suggestions that OP (or contributing poster) obtain psychological evaluations and/or counseling  
> Surely I am missing more, but this is definitely a start to a perfect thread.

This is full of win. I laughed until I cried.

Though it feels like “Hookers!” deserves both an exclamation mark and jazz hands. 😃

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/157 "2012-03-09T05:44:16Z")

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That 300-400 a month that goes to hookers? You’d be way better off spending it on a college education, then you could get a much better job (and world view) and find an _ahem_ “free girl”. (wow…)

You also may want to explore your view on women as “free women” and paid for women, that, rather than your lack of funds is probably 95% of your problem.

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**Author:** ![Yakuza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/bbce88/32.png) [@Yakuza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yakuza)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/158 "2012-03-09T05:53:44Z")

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> [@CanvasShoes](#):
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> That 300-400 a month that goes to hookers? You’d be way better off spending it on a college education, then you could get a much better job (and world view) and find an _ahem_ “free girl”. (wow…)
> 
> You also may want to explore your view on women as “free women” and paid for women, that, rather than your lack of funds is probably 95% of your problem.

Aren’t u aware that 1 college class costs about $1,000. The system is set up 2 keep it where a lot of people can’t go 2 college

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**Author:** ![florez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@florez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/florez)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/159 "2012-03-09T05:54:13Z")

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> [@Yakuza](#):
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> Ok, u know the answer is gonna be yes but let me explain. I would still socialize with the escorts because a man needs a woman, but I would have an even more greatet responsibility 2 try 2 changr the escort’s life around so that she can be encouraged 2 spend her money on more positve yhings like rent, a car, or 4 her child

Maybe you could turn the escort’s life around so well that she becomes a “free girl” in the process, then, and as it would follow-well beyond what you could afford for at least another 10-15 years.  
So in your world the “free girls” are too expensive, and the escorts need you to encourage them to spend the money (that you give them)in more positive ways?:dubious:

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**Author:** ![eman77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f04885/32.png) [@eman77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eman77)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nothing-is-wrong-witha-low-income-guy-getting-an-escort/615160/160 "2012-03-09T05:59:58Z")

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It’s a shame you have convinced yourself that you need money to get a girl. As if millions and millions of poor people don’t have sex everyday. If you dress better, take care of yourself, and do thing you enjoy, you will look around and see girls that like you everywhere you go.

If you are having such difficulty finding a mate due to economic factors, you should move somewhere where the income level is lower. Your personal happiness far outweighs whatever job you’re chasing.

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