# Notice Regarding Played-Out Looks.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 18, 2005, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796 "2005-06-18T06:49:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jurph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurph)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/81 "2005-06-20T20:34:22Z")

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> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> My roommate and I always play “Spot the Mullet” when we go to Wal-Mart, Sonny’s Real Pit Barbecue, rock concerts, wrestling matches, the Flea World flea market in Sanford, etc. We live in Central Florida, which is primo mullet territory.

Business in front, and a party in the back… GIT 'ER DONE!

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**Author:** ![PinkMarabou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@PinkMarabou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PinkMarabou)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/82 "2005-06-20T21:02:02Z")

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> [@yosemite](#):
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> Okay, I need some clarification on this. Why do jumpers look “hand made”? I assume that if the construction and sewing quality would be okay (if they are commercially produced and sold in retail stores) so it isn’t like they have a sloppy, shoddy “bad seamstress” look to them. Not that I am a fan of jumpers (hate them), but I am not sure what your point is here.
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> Unless you’re tying to say that _anything_ “handmade” is bad or undesirable—and if that’s your point, well, that’s just ignorant. Many people make their own clothes, to save money, to get the fit they like, etc.

[These.](http://www.modestapparelusa.com/jumpers.html) And I said jumpers look handmade, as in thrown together or as in “I can’t do anything more difficult than this”. I have nothing against anyone who wants to go through the time and effort to make clothes. Fine by me. Just the mu-mu style jumper dress thing that looks like the dresses shown in the link look BAD. If you’re going to spend all that time and the resources on that, just go to KMart and buy a nice little dress that has some shape to it.

Are we clear now?

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**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/83 "2005-06-20T21:03:56Z")

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Holy hell, PinkMarabou! Those things were awful. One was worse than the next.

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**Author:** ![PinkMarabou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@PinkMarabou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PinkMarabou)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/84 "2005-06-20T21:05:50Z")

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> [@UrbanChic](#):
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> Holy hell, PinkMarabou! Those things were awful. One was worse than the next.

See what I mean? Someone would have to pay ME a rather large sum of money to go out in public in those things! 😃

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/85 "2005-06-20T21:37:08Z")

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> [@Campion](#):
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> Let’s see: today, I am wearing my Von Dutch hat with the brim to the side (so that the masses can better admire my mullet).
> 
> My jeans are low riders (the better for everyone to admire the ten extra pounds pooching over the top, as well as the butterfly tattoo in the small of my back, which occasionally is covered up by my high-rise thong). Across the butt of my jeans is, of course, written “Too Young For Ashton!” even though, clearly, I am not.
> 
> I am also wearing my “I kissed your boyfriend!” t-shirt. On my feet are, of course, my Ugg boots. My make-up is tastefully done, as is my tan in a can. My lips are lined carefully in very dark liner, with a lighter color in between. And even though I have my summer tan, I still use my winter foundation. My seventeen gold necklaces just look so much better that way.
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> So, frankly, if anyone is an authority on played-out looks, it’s me. 🆒

Yup, that’s the Fashion Police uniform, all right. You’re obviously not just FP, you’re a New York designer! :smack:

Around here, the **real** cowboys, raising 20 head or more, wear John Deere and DeKalb caps, and their boots have real dung on them. I can’t aspire to that fashion, they have to earn it. 😉

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**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/86 "2005-06-20T21:52:47Z")

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> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> My roommate and I always play “Spot the Mullet” Sonny’s Real Pit Barbecue. We live in Central Florida, which is primo mullet territory.

Hell, when I was visiting your area in Feb you would not have made it past the waitress at Sonnys in Debary, FL

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/87 "2005-06-20T21:58:11Z")

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> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> I just keep waiting for fedoras and pork pie hats to come back into style.

When did fedoras ever go out of style? I just got a new white one for the summer.

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**Author:** ![Campion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@Campion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Campion)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/88 "2005-06-20T22:08:49Z")

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TO ALL PARTIES AND THEIR ATTORNEYS OF RECORD:

PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT, having read the briefs filed by the parties and by various _amici curiae_, and having considered the evidence provided therewith and the arguments of counsel thereon, and good cause appearing therefor, we hereby WITHDRAW our previously-filed Notice Regarding Played-Out Looks.

It has been brought to our attention that some people have taken this thread seriously, and appear to believe that what should have been offered in lighthearted fun is, instead, an unwarranted attack on these least able to defend themselves. We must reiterate that our world is a wide and varied place, and there is room for all of us in it (yes, even those straw faux cowboy hats or “Save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy” shirts). We must remind those who do not post here in jest that, as far as we have been able to determine, there is no such entity denominated the “Fashion Police,” and certainly no such “police” force charged with issuing citations for perceived violations of an arcane and subjective nature.

Consequently, we urge all parties to remember that one man’s low-slung jeans is another man’s treasure.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/89 "2005-06-20T22:12:11Z")

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> [@PinkMarabou](#):
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> I have nothing against anyone who wants to go through the time and effort to make clothes. Fine by me. Just the mu-mu style jumper dress thing that looks like the dresses shown in the link look BAD.

Yeah, they look BAD. Shapeless and loose, but not in a good way.

However, sewing a jumper such as that is no less difficult than making [this outfit](http://store.sewingtoday.com/cat/10000/itm_img/B4465.jpg), or [this skirt](http://store.sewingtoday.com/cat/20000/itm_img/V8001.jpg). Someone with minimal sewing skills could throw together either of those outfits, and if they did a decent job (i.e. straight seams, nice hems), the clothes would look okay. That’s because they’re not _hideous_ (unlike the aforementioned jumper). 😉

(Clothing images from [Vogue and Butterick Patterns](http://www.voguepatterns.com).)

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**Author:** ![lorinada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b5e925/32.png) [@lorinada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorinada)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/90 "2005-06-20T22:28:21Z")

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> [@PinkMarabou](#):
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> little white canvas shoes like Keds - yuck.

Young or not, I challenge YOU to find an inexpensive, casual pair of shoes that someone with a _ **TRIPLE E** _ foot can comfortably wear. Even in catalogs, most styles don’t exceed E.

Some people wear the shoes they wear because of reasons that have nothing to do with fashion. And probably don’t really care if you think it’s “yuck”.

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/91 "2005-06-20T22:34:06Z")

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> [@Campion](#):
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> TO ALL PARTIES AND THEIR ATTORNEYS OF RECORD:
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> PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT, pursuant to common notions of current aesthetics and hipness maintained by all civilized societies, certain looks have been determined to be played-out (the “Played-Out Looks”). The Played-Out Looks include, but are not limited to, the following: (i) the “Save A Horse, Ride A Cowboy” t-shirt, tank, or top of any kind; and (ii) the faux cowboy hat, including but not limited to the pink straw hat, or indeed straw hats of any form that are more appropriate to the garden than the rodeo.

This is hilarious, I know this guy! He just does it for the chicks.

(I can’t talk, my look is not only played it’s almost ubiquitous. My standard uniform is ironic, olive t-shirt and khaki cargo shorts.)

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**Author:** ![trupa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@trupa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/trupa)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/92 "2005-06-20T22:56:59Z")

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> [@Madd Maxx](#):
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> Coupled with a tattoo right above the thong in the small of thier back.

Padon this fashion ignorant engineer injecting a small dose of pragmatism in this thread. And a possible a hijack.

A tattoo in the above mentioned location is very likely to prevent these ladies from receiving an epidural, should they ever need one, should they ever have to deliver a baby.

And the alternatives, barring general anasthesia, will make the pain of getting the tattoo seem like a bed of rose petals. ☹  
We now return you to the previously started fashion thread.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/93 "2005-06-20T23:56:22Z")

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> [@trupa](#):
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> Padon this fashion ignorant engineer injecting a small dose of pragmatism in this thread. And a possible a hijack.
> 
> A tattoo in the above mentioned location is very likely to prevent these ladies from receiving an epidural, should they ever need one, should they ever have to deliver a baby.
> 
> And the alternatives, barring general anasthesia, will make the pain of getting the tattoo seem like a bed of rose petals. ☹  
> We now return you to the previously started fashion thread.

I’ve heard of this before (from a paramedic via my husband), so I looked it up, and there doesn’t seem to be any conclusive evidence of tattoos preventing epidurals, but in other extremely sad news, the doctors seem to be believing the urban legends and are becoming reluctant to give epidurals through tattoos. Sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy, I guess.

Oh, and those “modest” jumpers make me want to cut nipple holes in them.

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**Author:** ![kalex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dfb087/32.png) [@kalex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kalex)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/94 "2005-06-21T02:58:46Z")

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Hey, Pinkmarabou, those ‘modest jumpers’ would be just perfect for Holly Hobby’s recently reformed crackwhore sister, who has turned her back on the sinful, tattoo-on-the-buttcrack getting ways of the big city and wants to retire to a simple life on the farm. Tragically, the sloppily stitched hem of her modest garment gets caught in the…ummm…thresher and her tattoos prevent lifesaving surgery. They feed her remains to the hogs.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/95 "2005-06-21T03:55:21Z")

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> [@Snowboarder Bo](#):
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> I got one word for ya: **mullets**.

Dude, the mullet is the greatest haircut in the world. I’d give anything to be able to grow a mullet (I have that nappy hair that gives me the choices of either A: shaving it all off or B: letting it grow into an afro. Not a good afro mind you, but one of those bad, nappy afros that are all…uh…bad-like and afro-ey).

You do not choose the mullet, the mullet choses you.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/96 "2005-06-21T04:52:24Z")

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I want to open up a tattoo shop just so I could give people Kanji tattoos that meant “small penis” or “I am a whore.”

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**Author:** ![PookahMacPhellimey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pookahmacphellimey/32/3175_2.png) [@PookahMacPhellimey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PookahMacPhellimey)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/97 "2005-06-21T11:14:28Z")

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> [@Lord Ashtar](#):
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> Frankly, I don’t care if you don’t like what I wear. I’m not going to read a magazine to find out what’s cool this season, because it’ll be uncool by November. I’ll wear what I want, and if it offends you, tough cookies.

Exactly, **Lord Ashtar**. That was my reaction too.

**Marabou** , there really is a difference between mildly poking fun at mullets and your pedantic lists of do’s and don’ts. You’d have the fatties all covered up in tents (no bare arms, no matter what the weather. I suppose they can’t go to the beach as they’d have to wear a swimsuit - they’d be laughed at) and the gothy teens all nicely conformed to the “Glamour” magazines (hint: the poor chickens dress that way to rebel against the likes of you. it’s rather sweet really).

People look their best in what they feel at ease in, what suits their personalities. Seriously, even a person who is an out and proud mullet wearer can make it work as long as it’s really them. No really.

Most of the fashion faux pas that look so ludicrious (but make for fun threads) are caused by people paying _too much_ attention to those magazines, as well as their peers and fashion in general rather than too little and thus feel compelled to sport styles that don’t suit their looks or personalities.

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**Author:** ![PinkMarabou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@PinkMarabou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PinkMarabou)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/98 "2005-06-21T12:01:40Z")

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Funny how some here have no problem ripping on the fashions of some people, but when I mention some pretty basic things you all go ballistic. I don’t see anything different in what I said as compared to what other people were saying (i.e. the fat hanging over low-rise pants). Is it just okay to make fun of the younger styles?

I see, I hit a couple nerves. Well, maybe you should take a look at how critical you are of others before playing the martyr card. But it’s okay as long as you’re making fun of the younger kids, right?

I just thought I’d add the other perspective here. These are only my opinions, and of course you wear whatever you feel like. It’s a free country after all. You all take things entirely too seriously here. Have a drink, relax a little people. And while you’re having that drink, reflect on what you say about others.

You know what they say, those in glass houses . . .

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/99 "2005-06-21T12:22:15Z")

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> [@PookahMacPhellimey](#):
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> People look their best in what they feel at ease in, what suits their personalities. Seriously, even a person who is an out and proud mullet wearer can make it work as long as it’s really them. No really.
> 
> Most of the fashion faux pas that look so ludicrious (but make for fun threads) are caused by people paying _too much_ attention to those magazines, as well as their peers and fashion in general rather than too little and thus feel compelled to sport styles that don’t suit their looks or personalities.

Well said.

FWIW, I don’t think **Marabou** was being any snarkier than the rest of us. Even if she was, it’s _fun_ to laugh at what other people wear. Isn’t that why people go to the mall?

What do you mean, they buy stuff there?

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**Author:** ![PinkMarabou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@PinkMarabou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PinkMarabou)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/100 "2005-06-21T12:37:56Z")

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> [@PookahMacPhellimey](#):
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> (hint: the poor chickens dress that way to rebel against the likes of you. it’s rather sweet really).

Question: are you really being a non-conformist if you’re dressing how all your friends are?

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