# Notice Regarding Played-Out Looks.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 18, 2005, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796 "2005-06-18T06:49:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/101 "2005-06-21T12:53:12Z")

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> [@PinkMarabou](#):
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> Question: are you really being a non-conformist if you’re dressing how all your friends are?

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/102 "2005-06-21T12:55:29Z")

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> [@Biffy the Elephant Shrew](#):
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> When did fedoras ever go out of style? I just got a new white one for the summer.

Where did you get yours, and how much did you pay (if you don’t mind my asking)? I am looking for the perfect fedora and I know exactly what I want and about how much I’m willing to spend, but hardly anyone stocks nice men’s hats anymore. That’s what I mean by them being out of style, compared to the '40s and '50s when lots of men wore hats. I just think they’re sharp.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/103 "2005-06-21T15:46:46Z")

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> [@PinkMarabou](#):
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> Funny how some here have no problem ripping on the fashions of some people, but when I mention some pretty basic things you all go ballistic. I don’t see anything different in what I said as compared to what other people were saying (i.e. the fat hanging over low-rise pants). Is it just okay to make fun of the younger styles?
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> I see, I hit a couple nerves. Well, maybe you should take a look at how critical you are of others before playing the martyr card. But it’s okay as long as you’re making fun of the younger kids, right?
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> I just thought I’d add the other perspective here. These are only my opinions, and of course you wear whatever you feel like. It’s a free country after all. You all take things entirely too seriously here. Have a drink, relax a little people. And while you’re having that drink, reflect on what you say about others.
> 
> You know what they say, those in glass houses . . .

As a fellow youngin’, I’m inclined to agree with Marabou. I’ll admit, many of our current fashions will be silly on reflection (hell, quite a few are silly now), but many past generations are guilty of this as well. As evidence, I present to you the years 1970-1994.

And, just like you think my Ugg boots look silly, I think your flower printed capri pants and keds look silly too.

You can make fun of us youngins and our style (hell, we dont even know what it was like in your day- when you had to walk 4 miles, up hill in the show without any shoes! Kids nowadays…), but we get to pick on your clothes, too. That’s how it works.

But you know what we can all agree on? Nothing is funnier then a 50 year old woman with blonde streaks in her hair, an orange tan, Ugg boots, a Von Dutch hat, low rise jeans (showing her freshly done hip tattoo), belly piercing, and belly shirt.

Nevermind. Mullets are still funnier.

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**Author:** ![PinkMarabou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@PinkMarabou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PinkMarabou)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/104 "2005-06-21T16:00:01Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> Nevermind. Mullets are still funnier.

[Just for you sweetie!](http://www.ratemymullet.com/)

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**Author:** ![PookahMacPhellimey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pookahmacphellimey/32/3175_2.png) [@PookahMacPhellimey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PookahMacPhellimey)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/105 "2005-06-21T16:31:07Z")

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> [@PinkMarabou](#):
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> Funny how some here have no problem ripping on the fashions of some people, but when I mention some pretty basic things you all go ballistic. I don’t see anything different in what I said as compared to what other people were saying (i.e. the fat hanging over low-rise pants). Is it just okay to make fun of the younger styles?

No, it wasn’t really about young peoples’ fashion being stupid and “grown-up” fashion being all okay. I agree that you get silly outfits right across the board, just in different ways. I’m also not condemning you for giggling at them once in a while- I am certainly not above doing that either.

However, I thought some of your comments crossed the line ino being a bit too judgemental of anyone not comforming to the beauty mag norm. The reason this gets to me a bit is that I do plenty of beautiful people who dread their Summer wardrobe because they can’t cover up their “ugly” untoned bodies. I think this is sad. I think everyone should be able to walk around in a floaty dress/cool tank top on a hot Summer’s day without feeling they should cover up their arms.

I also have a soft spot for gothy kids even though I do agree about this being its own brand of conformity (and I love that t-shirt, **Voodoo Lou**!). Perhaps conformity is the new non-conformity. But then you don’t get to play with black nailpolish and be accused of Satan worship by the neighbours that way, which would surely be a shame.

Okay, point made, I will try to stop taking this thread to very seriously now.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/106 "2005-06-21T18:28:51Z")

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> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> Where did you get yours, and how much did you pay (if you don’t mind my asking)?

You’re right, it is hard to find decent hats in shops. I got the [Augusta](http://www.millerhats.com/straw2b.htm) from Miller Hats and I’m very pleased with it.

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/107 "2005-06-21T18:48:41Z")

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> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> Where did you get yours, and how much did you pay (if you don’t mind my asking)? I am looking for the perfect fedora and I know exactly what I want and about how much I’m willing to spend, but hardly anyone stocks nice men’s hats anymore. That’s what I mean by them being out of style, compared to the '40s and '50s when lots of men wore hats. I just think they’re sharp.

Stop looking now. White guys can’t do fedoras, and white guys with your build can’t do porkpies. Believe me, I’ve tried.

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/108 "2005-06-21T19:17:44Z")

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> [@Cliffy](#):
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> Stop looking now. White guys can’t do fedoras, and white guys with your build can’t do porkpies. Believe me, I’ve tried.
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> –Cliffy

Wow, I guess I’ve just been served!

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**Author:** ![chaoticbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@chaoticbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaoticbear)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/109 "2005-06-21T19:26:27Z")

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> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> Wow, I guess I’ve just been served!

So does that mean that it’s on, or do you have yet to serve him back?

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/110 "2005-06-21T19:31:04Z")

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IMO, Dean Stockwell on Quantum Leap was the best-dressed man ever. Rowr!

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**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/111 "2005-06-21T19:33:39Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> But you know what we can all agree on? Nothing is funnier then a 50 year old woman with blonde streaks in her hair, an orange tan, Ugg boots, a Von Dutch hat, low rise jeans (showing her freshly done hip tattoo), belly piercing, and belly shirt.

Saw one of those in our cafeteria today – mid-'60’s gal, with indian-motif silkscreen 3/4 sleeve tummy-top, lo-rise buttonfly cords (highwaters) with 1" heel flowery sandals …  
… and a white white white pot belly. Just like mine, but with less fur. No, wait - _whiter_. At least she didn’t have glaringly obvious collagen injections.

On a sadder note, her shoulders were terribly rounded, forward - that’s a sign of osteoperosis, no?

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**Author:** ![Campion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@Campion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Campion)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/112 "2005-06-21T21:00:20Z")

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> [@Cliffy](#):
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> Stop looking now. White guys can’t do fedoras, and white guys with your build can’t do porkpies. Believe me, I’ve tried.

**Big Bad Voodoo Lou** , I implore you: do not listen to **Cliffy**. While in general I have the utmost respect for **Cliffy** ’s opinions, in this he is flat out wrong.

> [@Dung Beetle](#):
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> IMO, Dean Stockwell on Quantum Leap was the best-dressed man ever. Rowr!

Amen! Oh, and what was that on his head all the time? Hmmm . . .

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**Author:** ![Queen\_Bruin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Queen\_Bruin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Bruin)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/113 "2005-06-21T21:22:21Z")

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> [@Daithi Lacha](#):
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> Saw one of those in our cafeteria today – mid-'60’s gal, with indian-motif silkscreen 3/4 sleeve tummy-top, lo-rise buttonfly cords (highwaters) with 1" heel flowery sandals …  
> … and a white white white pot belly. Just like mine, but with less fur. No, wait - _whiter_. At least she didn’t have glaringly obvious collagen injections.
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> On a sadder note, her shoulders were terribly rounded, forward - that’s a sign of osteoperosis, no?

Huh. I think you just saw my stepmonster.

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/114 "2005-06-21T21:31:10Z")

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> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> Wow, I guess I’ve just been served!

I mean you’re too thin for a porkpie, **Lou**. But by all means, ignore my advice. If you can rock a hat, I’ll salute you. But I’m sure that what will really happen is every few weeks for the rest of your life you’ll see your fedora hanging in a closet and you’ll think “Man, I wish I could wear that thing.” ☹

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/115 "2005-06-21T22:47:41Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> Jeans and a T-shirt. It’s worked for me for the last fifteen years, and there’s no end in sight.

Hear, hear! I’ve been a fashion dropout since I was 16, and it’s great. I wear what is comfortable and practical for me, nothing extreme, tight, or revealing. And it means people don’t seem to notice me. It’s like having a personal Somebody Else’s Problem field 🆒

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/116 "2005-06-21T23:26:40Z")

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> [@Cliffy](#):
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> I mean you’re too thin for a porkpie, **Lou**. But by all means, ignore my advice. If you can rock a hat, I’ll salute you. But I’m sure that what will really happen is every few weeks for the rest of your life you’ll see your fedora hanging in a closet and you’ll think “Man, I wish I could wear that thing.” ☹
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> –Cliffy

Oh, that’s a relief! I am not thin at all, and if you ever met me in real life, you’d know. I’m always hovering around 200 pounds and I’m about 5’10", so even though I don’t look “fat” if I’m fully dressed, nobody would ever confuse me with being skinny either. I thought you might mean _thick_ white guys can’t pull them off, so I might still try to find my dream fedora.

I’m worried because I sweat a lot, and I wouldn’t want to ruin a good hat by soaking it through, though.

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/117 "2005-06-22T05:30:51Z")

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> [@Argent Towers](#):
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> I want to open up a tattoo shop just so I could give people Kanji tattoos that meant “small penis” or “I am a whore.”

I want a t-shirt that says, “Foolish American Tourist” in Chinese, either kind.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/notice-regarding-played-out-looks/308796/118 "2005-06-22T05:36:53Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Stop looking now. White guys can’t do fedoras, and white guys with your build can’t do porkpies. Believe me, I’ve tried.

??

It used to be that everyone wore fedoras and porkpies, white and black. Are you saying that now only a certain race can do it?

Also are you insinuating that only blacks can wear those hats, or that any non-caucasian (Chinese, Samoan, Mexican) can pull off the look?

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