# Nov '04 Election Comments Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 2, 2004, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563 "2004-11-02T16:04:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/361 "2004-11-03T04:16:42Z")

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> [@lno](#):
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> Running low on whisky.
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> Trapped in time.
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> Surrounded by evil.

nicto

(nick’ toe)

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**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/362 "2004-11-03T04:17:10Z")

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I got a half a bottle of this here tea if ya want a shot **lno**

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**Author:** ![Polerius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d78d45/32.png) [@Polerius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polerius)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/363 "2004-11-03T04:17:35Z")

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Why aren’t they calling Florida for Bush yet?

With 94% of precints reporting, it’s fairly obvious now.

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/364 "2004-11-03T04:17:50Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> You’re drinking oil? :eek:
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> 😛

The _other_ Texas tea- Lawn Guyland tea + tequila.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/365 "2004-11-03T04:19:06Z")

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In Florida now it’s 95% of precincts, Bush leading 3,481,000 to 3,178,000. How many votes are left in those 5% of precincts? And even if they go 60-70% to Kerry, what does that yield?

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/366 "2004-11-03T04:19:50Z")

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I’m way less worried about Ohio than I am about Wisconsin. What is going on there? They don’t seem to have the same real-time reporting as Ohio, so it’s hard to see if Bush’s lead there is happening for the same reason as Ohio–namely, the Bush-heavy parts of the state have reported first.

I don’t think Kerry can with without Wisconsin at this point, regardless of Ohio.

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**Author:** ![passengerpigeon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/58f4c7/32.png) [@passengerpigeon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/passengerpigeon)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/367 "2004-11-03T04:20:30Z")

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Before the counting begins for my former home state, I just wanted to say HAWAII IN PLAY MY ASS.

All my stupid fellow Filipino-Americans can go back to Russia. First my mom likes The Passion, and now this.

–p

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**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/368 "2004-11-03T04:20:36Z")

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> [@DoctorJ](#):
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> I’m way less worried about Ohio than I am about Wisconsin. What is going on there? They don’t seem to have the same real-time reporting as Ohio, so it’s hard to see if Bush’s lead there is happening for the same reason as Ohio–namely, the Bush-heavy parts of the state have reported first.
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> I don’t think Kerry can with without Wisconsin at this point, regardless of Ohio.

Look at Milwaukee. Kerry is still in good shape there.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/369 "2004-11-03T04:21:03Z")

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Anyone else rooting for the 269-269 tie?

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/370 "2004-11-03T04:21:13Z")

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Well, it’s getting down to the nuts and bolts now. Kerry can lose Alaska (a given), Nevada (we’ll see), and either Ohio or Florida, but nothing else. I’m beginning to get seriously tense.

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/371 "2004-11-03T04:21:19Z")

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New Mexico: [Bernalillo](http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmbernal/city.htm) and Sandoval counties are not colored in yet. If the Democrats are to take NM that’s where I’d expect their remaining strength to be.

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**Author:** ![Rufus\_Xavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@Rufus\_Xavier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rufus_Xavier)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/372 "2004-11-03T04:22:05Z")

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Based on [electoral-vote.com](http://electoral-vote.com), if Bush and Kerry trade Fla and Ohio, and NJ goes Kerry, and all else stays as predicted, it would be Kerry 270, Bush 269

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/373 "2004-11-03T04:22:55Z")

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> [@Random](#):
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> Something very odd is going on in Cuyahoga county. It’s been stuck at 41% for quite some time.

CNN is saying 52%, now.

I just noticed that if all the other states stay the same as in 2000, but _New Hampshire_ swings over to Kerry, Kerry wins. Be a nice little bit of irony if that happened while we were all watching the big states…

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/374 "2004-11-03T04:23:24Z")

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> [@Rufus Xavier](#):
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> Based on [electoral-vote.com](http://electoral-vote.com), if Bush and Kerry trade Fla and Ohio, and NJ goes Kerry, and all else stays as predicted, it would be Kerry 270, Bush 269

Except that that is impossible. Do you mean 270-268?

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/375 "2004-11-03T04:24:07Z")

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> [@Rufus Xavier](#):
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> Kerry 270, Bush 269

- court battles = riots and looting

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/376 "2004-11-03T04:24:23Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> Anyone else rooting for the 269-269 tie?

If so, do they fight to the death?

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**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/377 "2004-11-03T04:24:25Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> Anyone else rooting for the 269-269 tie?

not really but I’ll take it as opposed to a Bush win.

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**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/378 "2004-11-03T04:24:34Z")

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> [@Rufus Xavier](#):
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> Based on [electoral-vote.com](http://electoral-vote.com), if Bush and Kerry trade Fla and Ohio, and NJ goes Kerry, and all else stays as predicted, it would be Kerry 270, Bush 269

You’ve got one vote too many. You’re probably giving Kerry one too many from Maine.

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/379 "2004-11-03T04:24:49Z")

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So far there appears to be no Nader spoiler factor anywhere; he’s not cost Kerry enough votes in any state thus far to have made the difference. Is that the consensus?

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/380 "2004-11-03T04:25:05Z")

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> [@Fretful Porpentine](#):
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> CNN is saying 52%, now.
> 
> I just noticed that if all the other states stay the same as in 2000, but _New Hampshire_ swings over to Kerry, Kerry wins. Be a nice little bit of irony if that happened while we were all watching the big states…

Does that take the effect of the population changes as a result of the 2000 census into consideration?

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