# Nov '04 Election Comments Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 2, 2004, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563 "2004-11-02T16:04:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/381 "2004-11-03T04:25:19Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > I’m way less worried about Ohio than I am about Wisconsin. What is going on there? We had voting problems in the city with long waits and people having serious problems registering. Polls closing with long lines yet to get through. I heard that most of the people were allowed to stay in line until they got to vote but no newcomers could get in line after the polls closed. Short on ballots, machines not working, people dicking around, etc. It could take quite some time before they figure out Milwaukee. Shit. I hate waiting this long. ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/382 "2004-11-03T04:25:38Z")
They still say it’s pretty much up to OHIO… ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/383 "2004-11-03T04:26:00Z")
> [@AHunter3](#): > > New Mexico: [Bernalillo](http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmbernal/city.htm) and Sandoval counties are not colored in yet. If the Democrats are to take NM that’s where I’d expect their remaining strength to be. What’s going on in Dona Ana County? The county is about 50% Hispanic, Las Cruces is a college town, and there’s a good community of artists, new-agers, and other liberal types. It seems to be swinging Bush, though. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/384 "2004-11-03T04:26:46Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > If so, do they fight to the death? Well, that’d be cooler than this “President to the House, Vice-President to the Senate” idea. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/385 "2004-11-03T04:27:04Z")
> [@Polerius](#): > > Why aren’t they calling Florida for Bush yet? > > With 94% of precints reporting, it’s fairly obvious now. Florida has a HUGE number of uncounted absentee ballots from Miami-Dade Co. Until they are counted, nobody is calling anything, which may mean tomorrow or Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/386 "2004-11-03T04:27:30Z")
They’re saying Bush is gonna take Fla AND Ohio as per Tom Brokaw ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/387 "2004-11-03T04:28:08Z")
> [@t-keela](#): > > not really but I’ll take it as opposed to a Bush win. A tie IS a Bush win. It would then be up to Congress, which is Republican-dominated, so they’d elect Bush. ---
**Author:** ![Standup\_Karmic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Standup\_Karmic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Standup_Karmic)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/388 "2004-11-03T04:28:26Z")
I have nothing of substance to add to this thread. I just wanted to record my presence for posterity. ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/389 "2004-11-03T04:28:38Z")
It does, however, look very good for Bush. The NAACP just filed a lawsuit in Florida so you know that Kerry’s camp is getting desperate. Ohio is still very open and it may take a while for Florida to go to Bush. Bush should be optimisitc though but there is a long way to go. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/390 "2004-11-03T04:28:43Z")
Hmmm, by my count & the C-SPAN map: if everything goes as leaning, Bush gets 271 electoral votes. Alaska&Hawaii have no results yet (last election Bush got Alaska’s 3). ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/391 "2004-11-03T04:29:06Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > I’m way less worried about Ohio than I am about Wisconsin. What is going on there? They don’t seem to have the same real-time reporting as Ohio, so it’s hard to see if Bush’s lead there is happening for the same reason as Ohio–namely, the Bush-heavy parts of the state have reported first. > > I don’t think Kerry can with without Wisconsin at this point, regardless of Ohio. According to CNN,com, less than 10% of the Milwaukee vote has been reported so far, with Kerry only holding a 1,000 vote lead there. Clearly, a whole buncha Kerry votes remain uncounted so far. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/392 "2004-11-03T04:29:37Z")
> [@Frostillicus](#): > > Florida has a HUGE number of uncounted absentee ballots from Miami-Dade Co. Until they are counted, nobody is calling anything, which may mean tomorrow or Thursday. Well, _I’m_ calling it for Bush. (I’m running a tally on my room’s door’s whiteboard.) ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/393 "2004-11-03T04:30:00Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > Does that take the effect of the population changes as a result of the 2000 census into consideration? Come to think of it, no. I wondered why I was noticing this and nobody else was 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/394 "2004-11-03T04:30:06Z")
> [@Random](#): > > Look at Milwaukee. Kerry is still in good shape there. Watchu mean. Only 9 percent in with a 500 vote lead. Exit polls have Bush winning the Milwaukee area by 63%. If I read that right. ---
**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/395 "2004-11-03T04:30:21Z")
> [@Uncommon Sense](#): > > We had voting problems in the city with long waits and people having serious problems registering. Polls closing with long lines yet to get through. I heard that most of the people were allowed to stay in line until they got to vote but no newcomers could get in line after the polls closed. > Short on ballots, machines not working, people dicking around, etc. It could take quite some time before they figure out Milwaukee. Shit. I hate waiting this long. 70% Dane counted, 40% Milwaukee, 0% Outagamie - not good news for Kerry ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/396 "2004-11-03T04:31:13Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > A tie IS a Bush win. It would then be up to Congress, which is Republican-dominated, so they’d elect Bush. I know you are probably right but hey…what can I say? ---
**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/397 "2004-11-03T04:31:51Z")
> [@Uncommon Sense](#): > > Watchu mean. Only 9 percent in with a 500 vote lead. > Exit polls have Bush winning the Milwaukee area by 63%. If I read that right. USA Today had 37% Milwaukee counted and the totals were almost split 50/50 ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/398 "2004-11-03T04:31:52Z")
ABC just projected Florida for Bush. Hey, thanks a lot guys. ---
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/399 "2004-11-03T04:31:58Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > If so, do they fight to the death? Two aristocratic ivy-league sons of wealth and privilege enter, one aristocratic son of ivy-league wealth and privilege leaves! ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/400 "2004-11-03T04:32:08Z")
Ah, here we go, CNN just updated Milwaukee. Kerry 150,000 - Bush 72,000. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563.md?page=21)