# Nov '04 Election Comments Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 2, 2004, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563 "2004-11-02T16:04:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/461 "2004-11-03T05:06:20Z")

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> [@Uncommon Sense](#):
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> I’ve got an unopened one here. What does ‘Fabrica La Rojena’ mean?

sorry had to use the facilities and get me another drink…damn I’m about out.

Fabrica La rojena’ IIRC is the family name of the distillery that makes Cuervo now.

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**Author:** ![Leonard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a6a055/32.png) [@Leonard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leonard)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/462 "2004-11-03T05:06:39Z")

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Anybody else notice that on the CNN page the party breakdown shows more Democrats voting for Bush than Republicans voting for Kerry? 😕

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**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/463 "2004-11-03T05:06:45Z")

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USA Today has called FL for Bush

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**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/464 "2004-11-03T05:07:43Z")

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CNN calls 234 for Bush. Add locks in MT, AK and CO, he’s at 249. He gets Ohio’s 20, and it’s over.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/465 "2004-11-03T05:07:58Z")

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Colorado will go to Bush, easily, which has been obvious for four months. He’s got a significant edge, and the only Kerry-friendly districts are reporting.

Nevada at this point looks like Bush will come back and win; almost all the votes counted are Clark County, e.g. Las Vegas. Once they get more rural votes Bush can pull ahead.

Bush is winning New Mexico. I don’t see any reason that will change.

She’s over, folks.

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**Author:** ![Rufus\_Xavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@Rufus\_Xavier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rufus_Xavier)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/466 "2004-11-03T05:07:59Z")

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I meant 270 Kerry, 268 Bush. Doesn’t matter, though. If Bush takes Ohio (and don’t forget - the CEO of Diebold is “committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the President”), I’ll have to start printing up my T-shirts that read

**Please, O Great and Glorious Leader, protect my civil liberties if you deem them worthy of your attention. Thank you.**

So I can be allowed to be seen in public.

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**Author:** ![Leonard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a6a055/32.png) [@Leonard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leonard)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/467 "2004-11-03T05:08:24Z")

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> [@Leonard](#):
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> Anybody else notice that on the CNN page the party breakdown shows more Democrats voting for Bush than Republicans voting for Kerry? 😕

I should have said a higher percentage not “more.” Oops.

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**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/468 "2004-11-03T05:08:47Z")

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And Ohio is looking good for Bush, although it’s close.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/469 "2004-11-03T05:09:08Z")

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My math says that now, if Bush wins Ohio and we give him Alaska, the best Kerry can hope for is a tie, and for that, he has to get everything Gore won as well as Nevada and New Hampshire. Even then, he’s screwed, as the Republicans control the House.

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/470 "2004-11-03T05:09:11Z")

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> [@t-keela](#):
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> sorry had to use the facilities and get me another drink…damn I’m about out.
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> Fabrica La rojena’ IIRC is the family name of the distillery that makes Cuervo now.

Ah, yes according to the BACK of the bottle they are the current trademark holders. :smack:

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/471 "2004-11-03T05:10:20Z")

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It’s only a local affair.

The forces of nature will be sufficient to evolve another species individually intelligent and socially communicative somewhere — if not in this galaxy then in the next — and things will be as they should be.

Just not for us.

I am still hoping you folks are wrong about the fate of Ohio. Aside from that, I recently saw _I Heart Huckabees_. I am preparing for bad news: I am accustoming myself to an understanding of myself as pond mold. ::whack::

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/472 "2004-11-03T05:11:17Z")

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It’d be shocking if Bush won California, but right now he’s only 5% behind. And the last tracking polls before the election had California in single digits as well. So you never know…

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/473 "2004-11-03T05:11:42Z")

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Wow. Dee Dee Meyers is looking now like what Tucker Carlson looked liked late this afternoon. Ohio is the key…

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**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/474 "2004-11-03T05:12:00Z")

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> [@Uncommon Sense](#):
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> Ah, yes according to the BACK of the bottle they are the current trademark holders. :smack:

That’s okay…if you’re not used to drinking tequila that kinda shit’ll happen. I think I must’ve spilled some on my computer…it’s acting pretty fucked up right now, too. 😃

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/475 "2004-11-03T05:12:00Z")

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I think that the fat lady is tuning up…though its probably not going to be decided until tomorrow for sure, I think that Bush might have pulled this off guys. :smack:

-XT

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/476 "2004-11-03T05:12:44Z")

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> [@Leonard](#):
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> Anybody else notice that on the CNN page the party breakdown shows more Democrats voting for Bush than Republicans voting for Kerry? 😕

I thought this might happen. Just in my family, there are several Democrats voting for Bush.

I know of precious few Republicans going for Kerry. The man is quite liberal, and has little crossover appeal.

Anecdotal, I know. Nice to see this impression confirmed by polling data.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/477 "2004-11-03T05:12:59Z")

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With no states changing color, have we become a permanently divided country?

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**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/478 "2004-11-03T05:13:03Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> I think that the fat lady is tuning up…though its probably not going to be decided until tomorrow for sure, I think that Bush might have pulled this off guys. :smack:
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> -XT

Of course he did.

I fucking hate this country.

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**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/479 "2004-11-03T05:14:40Z")

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I know the staff discourages posters _pulling up a chair_ in these threads but ya reckon they’ll let it slide for tonight?  
It’s not like we’re just fuckin around. well, not totally anyway… 😉

BTW where the hell are they?

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/480 "2004-11-03T05:15:13Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> So you can return some of that moolah you won in Bricker Challenges? 😃

Not my fault you keep sending me those $25 Amazon gift certificates. I got a nice Weber grill out of the last few of those. 🙂

We’ll see how things shake out. It’s still conceivable that you’ll keep sending me money. 😃

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