# Nov '04 Election Comments Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 2, 2004, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563 "2004-11-02T16:04:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/581 "2004-11-03T05:47:11Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > BTW, looks to me like New Mexico is going to go Bush…its almost getting to the point Kerry can’t win here either. > > -XT But there are 60,000 absentee ballots in Bernalillo County alone (including mine, which won’t be of any use in this race.) ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/582 "2004-11-03T05:47:27Z")
Bush’s raw lead is only 110,000 though with only 86% in. ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/583 "2004-11-03T05:47:32Z")
> [@t-keela](#): > > ya like that did ya? I thought ya mite…man I’m nursing the last of mine…where the hell you at…I thought you said you had a new bottle? I did. My stupid neighbor is over and he drinks like a fish. I’ve actually got about half a fifth left. That would be one tenth. The end is in site. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/584 "2004-11-03T05:47:30Z")
I will not accept it. He did not win fairly and I will not fucking rest. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/585 "2004-11-03T05:47:46Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > “We’re screwed, man! We’re SCREWED!” Then put HER in CHARGE!!! ---
**Author:** ![ataraxy22](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ataraxy22/32/307_2.png) [@ataraxy22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ataraxy22)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/586 "2004-11-03T05:48:05Z")
most of the votes out in NM are in Bernalillo county which has 66% counted and Kerry’s advantage 52%-46%. Bush is currently up statewide 228,557 to 209,286, but Bernalillo could make that up. Though San Juan county could be a spoiler. (stats from CNN site) ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/587 "2004-11-03T05:48:07Z")
> [@Incubus](#): > > I must say, I am a little disappointed. Up until the election, I had seen quite a significant outcry against Bush getting re-elected. I had thought that with all the screw-ups that happened over the past four years many former Bush voters would wake up and think “What the hell was I thinking?” > > There seemed to be a lot of apathy against voting for Kerry- as in people were less interested in Kerry and just more irate at Bush…maybe that doesn’t make much sense, but my brain is pretty fried from a rather busy day. For the record, I _did_ vote, and had hoped Kerry would get elected if just to see how he can handle things (I figure he would really have to work hard to screw things up _worse_ than Bush) > > (This message coming from a rather politically apathetic College Student) After this election you intellecksh’ls and freethinkers are going to be the first up against the wall. I, for one, welcome our new Evangelical Christian overlords. Okay, seriously, on MSNBC they were saying that the Christian Right turn out was phenomenal. Kudos for Rove and the Republican machine for offsetting the huge Democratic turnout, but I fear we inch closer to a Demotheocracy. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/588 "2004-11-03T05:48:17Z")
> [@Sam Stone](#): > > Fox may have been premature in calling Ohio. MSNBC just said that that Kerry is doing extremely well in Cleveland, and may close the gap. They may be backtracking… ---
**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/589 "2004-11-03T05:49:08Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > They may be backtracking… Who may be backtracking? Fox or MSNBC? ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/590 "2004-11-03T05:49:12Z")
I’m not going to completely give up on Ohio until 1.) all the absentee ballots are counted, and 2.) the election has been thoroughly investigated for shenanigans. Kerry can still pull up close enough for these things to make a difference. It’s only a glimmer of hope, but it is a glimmer. ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/591 "2004-11-03T05:49:21Z")
OHIO results as of NOW w/ lots of votes out yet President/Vice President Office Candidate Party Votes % Of Votes Statewide Totals Bush, George W. Republican 2,273,231 51.65% Kerry, John F. Democratic 2,106,545 ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/592 "2004-11-03T05:49:47Z")
Well, I’m off to bed. I’m trying to look at the upside. I’m glad that **Bricker** doesn’t have to explain to Mrs. Bricker why the savings account seems to be shrinking. And I’m glad I don’t live in the US. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/593 "2004-11-03T05:49:53Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > But there are 60,000 absentee ballots in Bernalillo County alone (including mine, which won’t be of any use in this race.) I’m in Sandoval here. The problem is Kerry would have to take a higher percentage of those votes than he’s currently taking in the state to have those help him enough to win. He still COULD win New Mexico (and I thought he WOULD win New Mexico), but its becoming more and more difficult for him to do so at this point. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/594 "2004-11-03T05:50:04Z")
> [@caphis](#): > > > [@Bricker](#): > > > > But you’d be outraged if an elector defected in a way you didn’t like, right? > > Yep. That makes you a hypocrite. An honest hypocrite, which I appreciate. But if there’s one set of rules for your side and one for the other, that’s hypocrisy. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/595 "2004-11-03T05:50:15Z")
> [@Sam Stone](#): > > Fox may have been premature in calling Ohio. MSNBC just said that that Kerry is doing extremely well in Cleveland, and may close the gap. 😕 So … Cleveland isn’t counted yet? Lots of conflicting reports around hee-yuh. [Dr. Evil] I’m the boss … need the info … [/Dr. Evil] ---
**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/596 "2004-11-03T05:50:43Z")
How the hell is this happening? Has everyone in all those red states had their heads up their arses all this time??? How the fuck can that fucknugget win??? Fingers still crossed but feeling like abortion and gay marriage should be more important to me if that is the way the “free” world is going. I was oddly thinking bombing the shit out of foreign countries for no apparent reasom might be more important. ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/597 "2004-11-03T05:51:01Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > I will not accept it. He did not win fairly and I will not fucking rest. I’ll accept that if you can provide a cite. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/598 "2004-11-03T05:51:03Z")
Fox is backing off the Ohio thing I think…at least for now. Its narrowed to just over 100k votes separating them at this point. -XT ---
**Author:** ![caphis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19adc/32.png) [@caphis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caphis)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/599 "2004-11-03T05:51:24Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > That makes you a hypocrite. An honest hypocrite, which I appreciate. But if there’s one set of rules for your side and one for the other, that’s hypocrisy. Tough. Deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/600 "2004-11-03T05:51:28Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Why? Their coverage has seemed to be as good as the other one’s I’ve been watching tonight…better than most even. They were the last to go with Florida to Bush. > > I think this is a knee jerk reaction. > > -XT See **Sam Stone** ’s post below. I’m not saying that they lie or are illegitimate, just that they sometimes make huge mistakes and can occasionally be unprofessional. Not that ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN aren’t similar at times, but Fox seems to be a notch below. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563.md?page=29) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563.md?page=31)