# Nov '04 Election Comments Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 2, 2004, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563 "2004-11-02T16:04:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/601 "2004-11-03T05:51:42Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> Well, I’m off to bed. I’m trying to look at the upside.
> 
> I’m glad that **Bricker** doesn’t have to explain to Mrs. Bricker why the savings account seems to be shrinking.

Me, too.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/602 "2004-11-03T05:51:43Z")

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> [@Sam Stone](#):
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> Fox may have been premature in calling Ohio. MSNBC just said that that Kerry is doing extremely well in Cleveland, and may close the gap.

No way.

As of 0055 EST, Kerry is 100,000 behind, but Cuyahoga County has reported 600,000 votes from 9 out of 10 precincts. Lucan and Franklin County are mostly reported, too. Kerry can’t make up another 100,000 votes there. And there are a lot of districts that will give Bush more votes - Miami County will be good for another 10K for Bush, and Warren could be another 15K.

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**Author:** ![pantom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/34f0e0/32.png) [@pantom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pantom)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/603 "2004-11-03T05:51:48Z")

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Kerry has to close a +3,000,000 gap in the popular vote. The trend has been going in favor of Bush since about 10 or 11, somewhere in there.  
This is a decisive victory for Bush.

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**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/604 "2004-11-03T05:52:03Z")

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> [@Uncommon Sense](#):
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> I did. My stupid neighbor is over and he drinks like a fish.  
> I’ve actually got about half a fifth left. That would be one tenth. The end is in site.

1/2 of a 5th of 128 ounces = 12.8 shots

man I wish I had 13 shots left

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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/605 "2004-11-03T05:52:08Z")

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With all due respect, I was in Wisconsin polling and shilling for the Republicans and let me tell you that the Democrats were just as guilty as the Republicans with so-called Shenanigans.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/606 "2004-11-03T05:52:53Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> No way.
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> As of 0055 EST, Kerry is 100,000 behind, but Cuyahoga County has reported 600,000 votes from 9 out of 10 precincts. Lucan and Franklin County are mostly reported, too. Kerry can’t make up another 100,000 votes there. And there are a lot of districts that will give Bush more votes - Miami County will be good for another 10K for Bush, and Warren could be another 15K.

NBC calls Ohio for Bush.

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**Author:** ![passengerpigeon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/58f4c7/32.png) [@passengerpigeon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/passengerpigeon)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/607 "2004-11-03T05:54:04Z")

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Were there really lines at the Ohio polls til midnight? How long did it take for the polls to actually close there?

Imagine the pressure if you were standing in line and heard how close the election was.

–p

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**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/608 "2004-11-03T05:53:37Z")

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It’s over. Cuyahoga is 90% in, finally. While that cut the Bush lead to 100,000, it’s not nearly enough. With the expected AK declaration for Bush, that gives him 269. He wins.

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**Author:** ![Suse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Suse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suse)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/609 "2004-11-03T05:53:46Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Paulding has 0% reporting so far.

Paulding isn’t gonna help Kerry, as much as I wish it would. Too small, too heavily favoring Bush.

I oughta know, I live in this godforsaken county.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/610 "2004-11-03T05:55:08Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> I’m in Sandoval here. The problem is Kerry would have to take a higher percentage of those votes than he’s currently taking in the state to have those help him enough to win. He still COULD win New Mexico (and I thought he WOULD win New Mexico), but its becoming more and more difficult for him to do so at this point.
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> -XT

What has the trend traditonally been for absentee ballots in New Mexico? (This is only my second Presidental election, and in 2000 I was still in high school and voted in my old elementary school.)

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/611 "2004-11-03T05:57:54Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> NBC calls Ohio for Bush.

They’d have been the last holdout.

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**Author:** ![caphis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19adc/32.png) [@caphis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caphis)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/612 "2004-11-03T05:57:59Z")

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Fox says there are at least 150,000 provisional ballots to be counted in Ohio (my guess is that many would be from Kerry-supporters \<cough\>). Who knows how many in FL.

Is it really over?

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/613 "2004-11-03T05:58:48Z")

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Jeez, Iowa is close. Nader and Badnarik might actually have made an impact there.

**Asterion** : Traditionally absentee ballots skew Republican.

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/614 "2004-11-03T05:59:35Z")

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> [@Lochdale](#):
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> With all due respect, I was in Wisconsin polling and shilling for the Republicans and let me tell you that the Democrats were just as guilty as the Republicans with so-called Shenanigans.

Local reports have been backing that claim up all day.

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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/615 "2004-11-03T05:59:42Z")

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Well if you give Kerry 60% of that vote it still wouldn’t be enough. Ohio to Bush,

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/616 "2004-11-03T05:59:50Z")

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MSNBC is calling Ohio for Bush.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/617 "2004-11-03T06:00:50Z")

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Iowa shows a 17 vote difference between Kerry and Bush with 86% of precincts reporting.

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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/618 "2004-11-03T06:03:15Z")

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And by the way, I think FNC have done a very good job with their coverage.

Tom Brokaw can barely contain his anger. Real impartial there Tom.

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/619 "2004-11-03T06:03:21Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> Iowa shows a 17 vote difference between Kerry and Bush with 86% of precincts reporting.

Whoever laid out the counties for Iowa sure like little squares didn’t they?

That sure is a close race.

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**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/620 "2004-11-03T06:03:49Z")

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With 84% reporting - looks like Daschle is toast

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