# Nov '04 Election Comments Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 2, 2004, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563 "2004-11-02T16:04:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/761 "2004-11-03T07:08:29Z")

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> [@zamboniracer](#):
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> I think you meant to say that there’s no way the Dems would nominate a pro-life, anti-abortion candidate.

You are correct. Maybe that 2nd bottle of wine wasn’t so good an idea afterall. Ah, sure it was!!!

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/762 "2004-11-03T07:08:54Z")

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Bush up 128,000 votes in Ohio with 96% reporting.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/763 "2004-11-03T07:11:08Z")

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**Brutus** , does that 96% include absentee ballots?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/764 "2004-11-03T07:13:34Z")

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> [@John Mace](#):
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> First off, I’m not a Republican.

Neither is Zell Miller. If it walks like a duck…

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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/765 "2004-11-03T07:13:31Z")

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Jennings won’t even call him President Bush. Pathetic.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/766 "2004-11-03T07:14:03Z")

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It’s going to be interesting to watch the growth of the European Union over the next four years. Someone might want to start laying the ground work for good relations.

Will Kerry’s legal team go into Ohio? Any opinions?

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**Author:** ![caphis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19adc/32.png) [@caphis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caphis)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/767 "2004-11-03T07:14:59Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> Will Kerry’s legal team go into Ohio? Any opinions?

I doubt it. But, then again, who knew we’d be sitting here at 2:30 AM worrying that we’ll have to wait 11 days to find out the results of 500,000 ballots in Ohio?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Doubt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/df705f/32.png) [@Peter\_Doubt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Doubt)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/768 "2004-11-03T07:15:35Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> It’s going to be interesting to watch the growth of the European Union over the next four years. Someone might want to start laying the ground work for good relations.
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> Will Kerry’s legal team go into Ohio? Any opinions?

Guessing yes.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/769 "2004-11-03T07:15:42Z")

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NBC just said they don’t know how many provisional ballots there are in Ohio and whether or not they can make the difference. 97% of Ohio reporting. Bush ahead by 100,000.

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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/770 "2004-11-03T07:16:22Z")

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Ohio race for President 11077 of 11477 precincts - 97 percent  
George W. Bush (i) Rep 2,702,479 - 51 percent  
John F. Kerry Dem 2,574,487 - 49 percent  
Michael Badnarik NP 13,768 - 0 percent  
Michael Peroutka NP 11,628 - 0 percent

Bush wins Ohio.

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**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/771 "2004-11-03T07:17:22Z")

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Bush ahead by 126,000 in OH - 97% reporting

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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/772 "2004-11-03T07:17:34Z")

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Nobody has said that there are 500,000 provisionals in Ohio Caphis. I think it’s done deal. Bush wins Ohio. Bush wins the Presidency.

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**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/773 "2004-11-03T07:17:39Z")

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**Dio** where the hell you been boy?

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/774 "2004-11-03T07:19:09Z")

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> [@Lochdale](#):
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> Nobody has said that there are 500,000 provisionals in Ohio Caphis. I think it’s done deal. Bush wins Ohio. Bush wins the Presidency.

Not if Kerry wins the other seven states. Then it will get ugly.

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**Author:** ![caphis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19adc/32.png) [@caphis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caphis)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/775 "2004-11-03T07:19:12Z")

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> [@Lochdale](#):
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> Nobody has said that there are 500,000 provisionals in Ohio Caphis. I think it’s done deal. Bush wins Ohio. Bush wins the Presidency.

The numbers offered for provisional ballots range from 125,000 to up to 250,000. There are also uncounted military ballots from overseas, and any remaining uncounted ballots in the state.

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**Author:** ![mack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/776 "2004-11-03T07:19:36Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> It’s going to be interesting to watch the growth of the European Union over the next four years. Someone might want to start laying the ground work for good relations.
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> Will Kerry’s legal team go into Ohio? Any opinions?

Depends on the other states that haven’t checked in. Winning Ohio would give Kerry only 227 (I think) electoral votes, so he still needs several states to get him up to 270. If those states don’t come through there’s no point in challenging Ohio.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/777 "2004-11-03T07:19:59Z")

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Iowa has had machines to break down and now they have to get new machines from another state.

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**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/778 "2004-11-03T07:20:03Z")

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Ohio … the gap is less than 11K pop votes and that doesn’t include the absentee votes. as of NOW

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/779 "2004-11-03T07:20:07Z")

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I’m here. I’m not buyimg these results either. Let’s get on with the lawsuits.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/780 "2004-11-03T07:20:11Z")

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> [@zamboniracer](#):
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> I think you meant to say that there’s no way the Dems would nominate a pro-life, anti-abortion candidate.
> 
> Maybe they ought to think about it though.

I’m starting to see a clear difference between Republicans and Democrats (maybe it’s the hour). Democrats would rather be “right” than win. Republicans would rather win than be “right”. Guess which path leads to electoral victories?

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