# Nov '04 Election Comments Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 2, 2004, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563 "2004-11-02T16:04:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/821 "2004-11-03T07:49:46Z")
Considering the hard-headedness of those folks who stood in line for 13 hours to vote, I think they are making the right choice in waiting until all of the votes are counted. Guliani is on NBC and apparently thinks that sense we are at war, we need to rush this a little. He keeps talking and “endless, endless litigation.” I don’t think anyone is talking about that. He is distorting the reality. Kerry’s camp is talking about _counting_ the votes in Ohio. Is that too much to ask? ---
**Author:** ![caphis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19adc/32.png) [@caphis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caphis)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/822 "2004-11-03T07:50:18Z")
> [@Lochdale](#): > > Yes but at some point you have to accept that it is a huge longshot. Can’t see it happening as the margin is too large. I never claimed it wasn’t a long shot. I never claimed it would be easy. But it’s worth doing. ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/823 "2004-11-03T07:50:28Z")
> [@caphis](#): > > Cite? I’m watching NBC now, and NBC hasn’t called Ohio on the air. I promise you NBC hasn’t called Ohio, I’ve been watching Brokaw all night. I’ve got two TV’s going too. AND ABC hasn’t really called it either. I just watched a discussion…did any of y’all see it. They were just talking about how the republicans really didn’t want this election to be decided in the courts and how they couldn’t understand WHY the Democrats didn;t just concede the election. WTF is that? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/824 "2004-11-03T07:52:42Z")
NBC and Tom Brokaw called Ohio at 11:59 PM CST. I looked at the clock to see what time it was. It is the Kerry camp that is contesting it and I support it! ---
**Author:** ![caphis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19adc/32.png) [@caphis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caphis)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/825 "2004-11-03T07:53:21Z")
I’m off to bed. 'Twas a fun… wow, I’ve been glued to CNN for 8 hours. ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/826 "2004-11-03T07:54:32Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > NBC and Tom Brokaw called Ohio at 11:59 PM CST. I looked at the clock to see what time it was. It is the Kerry camp that is contesting it and I support it! You are exactly right…they called it as i was typing my previous post. ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/827 "2004-11-03T07:54:48Z")
I’m off to bed myself. Pleasure sharing this with all of you. Lochdale. ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/828 "2004-11-03T07:55:03Z")
MSNBC’s website called Ohio for Bush two hours ago. So did Fox. But CNN, ABC and CBS still refuse. He won the popular vote this time! He won FL by over 300K! Everything has gone smoothly! Are they really going to drag this out **AGAIN!!!** :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/829 "2004-11-03T07:55:14Z")
> [@t-keela](#): > > I promise you NBC hasn’t called Ohio, I’ve been watching Brokaw all night. I’ve got two TV’s going too. > AND ABC hasn’t really called it either. I just watched a discussion…did any of y’all see it. They were just talking about how the republicans really didn’t want this election to be decided in the courts and how they couldn’t understand WHY the Democrats didn;t just concede the election. > WTF is that? :dubious: Just a preview of what you’ll hear for the next 168 hours on talk radio. ---
**Author:** ![pkd88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/2bfe46/32.png) [@pkd88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkd88)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/830 "2004-11-03T07:56:28Z")
> [@t-keela](#): > > I promise you NBC hasn’t called Ohio, I’ve been watching Brokaw all night. I’ve got two TV’s going too. > AND ABC hasn’t really called it either. I just watched a discussion…did any of y’all see it. They were just talking about how the republicans really didn’t want this election to be decided in the courts and how they couldn’t understand WHY the Democrats didn;t just concede the election. > WTF is that? :dubious: I am not saying this to prove anyone right or wrong. I am not watching NBC on TV, but this is from MSNBC. I am not really clear on how NBC TV and MSNBC relate: [http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6363692/](http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6363692/) > [@](#): > > NBC News projected Wednesday morning that President Bush had won Ohio and Florida, two of the three battleground states that were key to the 2004 presidential election, but Sen. John Kerry’s campaign was unwilling to concede, insisting that he would win Ohio’s 20 electoral votes when all the ballots were counted — which might not happen for almost two weeks On that page is a link to a video of Brokaw referring to somebody else about NBCs decision to give Ohio to Mr. Bush. ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/831 "2004-11-03T07:57:38Z")
Did anyone hear the report they just came up with? Wisconsin is reporting 115% voter turnout…heh that’s pretty damned good. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/832 "2004-11-03T07:57:42Z")
> [@Hail Ants](#): > > MSNBC’s website called Ohio for Bush two hours ago. So did Fox. > > But CNN, ABC and CBS still refuse. > > He won the popular vote this time! He won FL by over 300K! Everything has gone smoothly! Are they really going to drag this out **AGAIN!!!** :mad: If the Republicans would quit trying to cheat we wouldn’t have to keep going to court. The popular vote is irrelevant, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/833 "2004-11-03T07:59:41Z")
**pdk88 & Slacker** I concede the point…see my previous post. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/834 "2004-11-03T08:01:18Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > If the Republicans would quit trying to cheat we wouldn’t have to keep going to court. > > The popular vote is irrelevant, by the way. That my friend is a proven FACT. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/835 "2004-11-03T08:01:38Z")
> [@](#): > > Are they really going to drag this out AGAIN!!! Is it still okay to count the votes in an election? ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/836 "2004-11-03T08:02:34Z")
> [@t-keela](#): > > That my friend is a proven FACT. Which , the cheating or the pop vote ? Declan ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/837 "2004-11-03T08:02:35Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > Is it still okay to count the votes in an election? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/838 "2004-11-03T08:03:54Z")
Is anyone STILL watching the results. They just showed that it is still possible with the 7 states still out that Kerry can win! ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/839 "2004-11-03T08:04:59Z")
Forgive a dirty foreigner, but isn’t there anywhere on the web that shows the current state of the election, as in Kerry states, Bush states, and states that aren’t quite ready yet? ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/840 "2004-11-03T08:05:08Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > Which , the cheating or the pop vote ? > > Declan I was talkin about the pop vote but I get your point 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563.md?page=41) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563.md?page=43)