# Nov '04 Election Comments Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 2, 2004, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563 "2004-11-02T16:04:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/161 "2004-11-03T01:42:32Z")
> [@caphis](#): > > [Zogby](http://www.zogby.com) has been spot on, thus far. Big whoop. Has any state flipped from where it was in 2000 yet? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/162 "2004-11-03T01:43:09Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Big whoop. Has any state flipped from where it was in 2000 yet? Not according to the CNN map. ---
**Author:** ![caphis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19adc/32.png) [@caphis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caphis)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/163 "2004-11-03T01:44:17Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Big whoop. Has any state flipped from where it was in 2000 yet? shhhh. I’m being optimistic. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/164 "2004-11-03T01:44:23Z")
> [@lno](#): > > And again, blank that blanking blank as I’ve blanking blanked another blanking bottle of scotch. > > Lord, I hope I win my bet against **Bricker** , or else I’ll empty my entire liquor cabinet. > > Blanking blank. **Lno** , I really must come up to Minnesota in four years and watch returns with you whilst we eat pork and drink scotch whisky. Sounds like a brilliant way to spend the evening. I’ve been drinking a nice 2000 Kendall Jackson Cab-Merlot. It just seemed more presidential, plus I must drive soon. Damn Chris Matthews and his “Too close to calls!” ---
**Author:** ![Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kel_Varnsen_Latex_Division)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/165 "2004-11-03T01:45:52Z")
Based on what is known, what is the thinking? Kerry or Bush? ---
**Author:** ![violacrane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c57346/32.png) [@violacrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/violacrane)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/166 "2004-11-03T01:46:18Z")
**BLANK** that post took me so long to do, because I waited for John Snow to show up again, that no one is talking about the blanking graphics any more. Has someone lost yet? ---
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/167 "2004-11-03T01:46:24Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > It just seemed more presidential, plus I must drive soon. Given the last two presidencies, I think cocaine and hookers would be the most “presidential” route. ---
**Author:** ![alterego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@alterego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alterego)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/168 "2004-11-03T01:46:58Z")
> [@lno](#): > > And again, blank that blanking blank as I’ve blanking blanked another blanking bottle of scotch. > > Lord, I hope I win my bet against **Bricker** , or else I’ll empty my entire liquor cabinet. > > Blanking blank. Better slow down and taste the stuff. Otherwise you’ll be tasting charcoal! :eek: :wally ---
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/169 "2004-11-03T01:48:57Z")
> [@alterego](#): > > Better slow down and taste the stuff. Otherwise you’ll be tasting charcoal! :eek: :wally I truly hope he’s either drinking airplane bottles, or he started drinking around 6AM. Otherwise, he either has a 17-pound liver of Godly Power or he’s posting from an alcohol coma. ---
**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/170 "2004-11-03T01:50:38Z")
Yea! Rep Phil Crane (R, Drunk, Old, Fat, 35-year in office fossil) is losing in Illinois 8th District. They’re saying that the Democrat (Melissa Bean) is winning in some suburban Chicago Repub precincts that are going for Bush. ---
**Author:** ![pantom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/34f0e0/32.png) [@pantom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pantom)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/171 "2004-11-03T01:52:47Z")
Welp, based on what I’ve seen so far, among the “white” states on the map as I write this, I’m calling it as follows: Bush: FLA, ARK, MO Kerry: NH, OH, PA, NH Criteria: No of Dems vs Reps going for their own party, gender gap, and how independents are voting in the state in question. Source: [CNN’s Main Election Page,](http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/) which seems to be the best of the bunch. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/172 "2004-11-03T01:53:23Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Big whoop. Has any state flipped from where it was in 2000 yet? No. Basically its going exactly as predicted so far. Florida and Ohio are still up in the air from everything I’ve seen…but Florida SEEMS to be going Bush to me. Ohio is definitely still up for grabs…cnn only has them reporting 4% right now. However, Bush is up there atm as well (though with 4% of the vote I don’t think you could make any call at all). I think people are getting giddy here and I’m really not seeing any cause for that yet. I think the exit polls being used in some places have all the accuracy of goat entrails this election…least thats my take on it so far. I’ve seen exit polls showing Bush losing in Virgina, but looks pretty clear from the raw data Bush is going to take Virgina…easily. Same with several other states. I’m still predicting a narrow Kerry win…but its definitely still up in the air at this point. Now, I have some serious drinking to get back too. I’ll check back in when I’ve opened the 2nd bottle of 15 year old scotch… -XT ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/173 "2004-11-03T01:54:49Z")
Bush has now snagged one of Maine’s electoral votes, I see. I’m slightly concerned by the long queues of voters still waiting in PA, OH and FL after the polls have officially closed; estimated waiting times are up to five hours in some areas. I’m more concerned by the reports that the Republicans in some of those areas are legally challenging attempts to bring in more voting machines to speed up queueing. Let people vote, dammit! ---
**Author:** ![passengerpigeon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/58f4c7/32.png) [@passengerpigeon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/passengerpigeon)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/174 "2004-11-03T01:57:58Z")
[CNN.com](http://CNN.com) just gave the heartland (ND, SD, WY, NE, KS, OK, TX) to Bush. Not that this is surprising or anything, but it kinda spooked me when I saw it before I realized what it was. –p ---
**Author:** ![rfgdxm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@rfgdxm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rfgdxm)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/175 "2004-11-03T02:00:29Z")
> [@Kel Varnsen - Latex Division](#): > > Based on what is known, what is the thinking? Kerry or Bush? Unknown. Barring a surprise in some state thought safe, it all depends on FL, OH and PA. ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/176 "2004-11-03T02:03:31Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Big whoop. Has any state flipped from where it was in 2000 yet? New Hampshire will be the first. ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/177 "2004-11-03T02:04:26Z")
And according to the Senate results from NC, things are not looking good for Erskine Bowles. Damn. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/178 "2004-11-03T02:08:17Z")
> [@Patty O'Furniture](#): > > New Hampshire will be the first. Most likely. I’m surprised it hasn’t been called yet. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/179 "2004-11-03T02:09:47Z")
Bush is now leading by 3% in Ohio. Up 7 points in Florida, but the two large, democratic leaning districts have yet to weigh in. Looks like it’s going to be a squeaker. ---
**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563/180 "2004-11-03T02:11:50Z")
Iron liver of godly power it is, and five minutes of backspacing to edit out all egregious typos so five years from now I can look back and tell myself I wasn’t this drunk. Blank that blanking blank. **Shibb** , you’re welcome up here at any time, except tonight it’s a nice homemade chicken curry (thanks to **Elenfair** ) and the multiple half-empty bottles of scotch whisky. Gotta clear up space in the cabinet in case **Bricker** loses and I get a nice Islay malt in exchange. Blanking blanking blank blank blank. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nov-04-election-comments-thread/272563.md?page=10)