Well, this is awkward, isn’t it Al?
[off topic] When I (in Thailand) click the kabc link, or even attempt to go to kabc home page, I see
Seems odd.
Perhaps whoever took the photo will speak up about the events.
What the hell, man? I’m starting to worry that when this is all over, the Capitol will be empty except for one guy with a floor polisher, and the only person left in Hollywood will be like, Kirk Cameron or some shit.
From where I’m at, that sounds like a delightful vision for the future.
While I’ve been thinking Franken would be a solid choice for 2020, I’m not surprised he’s not a boy scout. I’m sure this isn’t the only time he’s done something lewd over the past 40-odd years. Or done coke. Or done any number of questionable things. Better it comes out now instead of after he wins the nomination. Although, even that wasn’t a campaign-ender for Trump. But this may end up rightfully costing him his political career.
Not saying what he did was right, groping and shoving one’s tongue into another person’s mouth is wrong no matter who does it, but interesting this is coming from a Hannity regular at this exact moment. Also interesting how our board’s known conservatives have suddenly taken such a strong interest in sexual harassment, but only in this thread. Strange, that.
You say the first part like that would be a bad outcome. I would not be upset if we had a complete reset on Congress & the Senate (and President for that matter). Beside, the odds are fairly good most of the few Women Congressman & Senators would be there with the one guy with a floor polisher.
He wasn’t a senator when it happened, just saying. Can the Senate kick him to the curb? This crap has got to stop. Will men ever learn? It is possibly gonna take years to clean this mess up. I hope they are running scared on capital hill.
I would like to call out all women who have been sexually assaulted by these creeps to stand up and scream it out! I have NO more tolerance for this left in me.
Going after Bill again, too.
Why is this thread in Elections?
The women on capital hill should start filing harassment lawsuits.
Until 15 minutes ago, pretty much my favorite Senator.
What a pathetic apology. Fuck him. Sure, there’s a non-zero chance this is all manufactured, but there’s also a non-zero chance Franken is a lizard person. Fuck all harassers and assaulters; every last one of them. If he’s a tenth of the person I thought he was 15 minutes ago, he’ll give a much better apology and then resign.
Fuck 'em all. Let the hammer fall where it may. Hopefully liberal and progressive office-holders won’t let me down, and will refrain from defending Franken or justifying his behavior or attacking his accuser.
I take it the Alabama Senate hopeful is probably dancing for joy right about now?
Don’t downplay it. He didn’t just do ‘something lewd’ like tell a dirty joke or engage in naught consensual activities, he forced his tongue into an unwilling person’s mouth, harassed her for resisting him, and then used her body to take a sexual picture while she was sleeping with clear malicious intent.
This is exactly like saying “I’m not racist, but…”. And when you shove the ‘not saying’ butt or the ‘not racist’ butt into your statement, it nullifies the ‘not’. And it’s REALLY not that “interesting” that sexual assault victims are coming forward in the wake of the recent revelations and the current environment of actually caring about sexual assaults.
If you’re going that route, it’s also interesting how this board’s known liberals have suddenly taken such a strong interest in victim blaming and dismissing allegations, but only in this thread.
The source is a statement by the accuser posted on the website of the radio station for which she is a news anchor.
I really don’t understand the use of the word ‘worry’ here. Not that it’s going to happen, but clearing out Washington would be such a beautiful thing to witness.
FWIW, I don’t think Franken needs to resign over this. Though it could get interesting if other people then step forward, as has been the pattern.
What was the malicious intent?
Who has done that in this thread?
First, all cards on that table, I once sexually harassed a young woman until she married me 39 years ago.
I don’t know where this incident falls on the scale, I don’t give Al any special consideration because I like his politics and enjoy his humor, but I’ll need more information than an obviously posed and comic picture and an accusation from a political opponent. He apologized for his behavior, time will tell if that was sufficient. An isolated accusation, and one with less than clear implications always has to be viewed without bias, but if other women make similar reports about Franken we’ll have to put him under the microscope.
Seriously, who’s victim blaming in this thread? Who’s dismissing allegations? I’m not victim blaming nor dismissing, but nice try; I’m saying this could end his career and rightfully so. I’m not downplaying it, I’m saying there’s a good chance he is guilty as charged, and probably done other shit and possibly worse. And I say this as someone who really, really wanted Al Franken to run for president. Not anymore.
But there’s almost a glee from conservatives in pointing out a Democratic Senator’s harassing behavior which doesn’t exist in other threads on Roy Moore. Or Bill O’Reilly. Or that old guy who ran Fox News.