# NOW can we get a pukey smilie? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 15, 2006, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501 "2006-03-15T19:07:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2006, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501/21 "2006-03-15T23:03:36Z")
More from the ABC Radio newsfeed: the pond scum were using P2P software and it sounds like **hajario** was right about them being infiltrated. ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2006, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501/22 "2006-03-15T23:07:51Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > I just heard on the ABC radio newsfeed that one of those kids was 18 months old! I heard that on the radio and very nearly _did_ puke. I made a lot of involuntary horrified noises, anyway. Incomprehensible. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501/23 "2006-03-16T01:06:10Z")
These “people” are fucking disgusting–somebody hand me my finest grained cheese grater, I have some double radical orchidectomies to perform! Another vote for a highly animated puking smiley. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501/24 "2006-03-16T01:20:01Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > More from the ABC Radio newsfeed: the pond scum were using P2P software and it sounds like **hajario** was right about them being infiltrated. I felt ill when I heard about this on the radio. The guys whose job it was to infiltrate these sick fucks should get a medal and be allowed to retire. I can’t imagine having to pretend to be into child pornography, even to bust people who perpetrate crimes like this. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501/25 "2006-03-16T02:39:51Z")
“Molestation on demand??” :eek: There’s a phrase that’ll ring for a while. No longer nabbing an exchange of old pictures of a “done deed”, your regular old perv who just, for some reason, felt like providing documentary evidence against himself. This is directly causing it to happen. Even from my jaundiced POV about what a piece of work is man, this is, like… how in the world could they expect to not be eventually detected and traced? ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501/26 "2006-03-16T13:07:16Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > The guys whose job it was to infiltrate these sick fucks should get a medal and be allowed to retire. I can’t imagine having to pretend to be into child pornography, even to bust people who perpetrate crimes like this. I agree. I can’t imagine having to carry those images around in your head for the rest of your life. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501/27 "2006-03-16T13:30:02Z")
[Global child porn probe led to false accusations](http://www.cbc.ca/story/news/national/2006/03/14/landslide-porn060314.html) > [@](#): > > An international investigation of internet-based child pornography has led to accusations against innocent victims of credit card fraud, a CBC News investigation has found. > > In other cases, victims of identity theft found themselves fighting to save their reputations, jobs and marriages after their names were used to buy child pornography. > > Still others were implicated when they made legal purchases of adult pornography from sites that were associated with child-porn sites. > > In the United Kingdom, almost 40 of those accused have committed suicide in the past six years, as well as six in Australia and at least one in Canada. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501/28 "2006-03-16T19:32:11Z")
Why do you love child molesters, Matt? ---
**Author:** ![Mindfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindfield/32/19759_2.png) [@Mindfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mindfield)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501/29 "2006-03-16T20:16:47Z")
I’d vote for another pukey smiley, but you’d have to step up to a Flash-based smiley that fills the entire screen with bile in order to even approach the ability to express the kind of bowel-excavating disgust a story like this engenders. For fuck’s sakes twisted sicko perv assmunchers got off on _watching 18-month-old children being molested fucking **live**!_ (As in real-time) Goddamnmotherfuckingshit that’s just … _evil_. I hope the lot of them get booked and released straight to genpop the day after someone “accidentally” lets slip among the populace the crimes of these heinous babyfuckers. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501/30 "2006-03-16T20:31:10Z")
> [@matt\_mcl](#): > > [Global child porn probe led to false accusations](http://www.cbc.ca/story/news/national/2006/03/14/landslide-porn060314.html) Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat’s just fucking wonderful. GodDAMN those fucking people! Christ, how many lives do they have to ruin for their twisted compulsion??? ---
**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501/31 "2006-03-16T22:48:11Z")
> [@matt\_mcl](#): > > [Global child porn probe led to false accusations](http://www.cbc.ca/story/news/national/2006/03/14/landslide-porn060314.html) Is this being offered up as some sort of excuse for child porn afficiandos? I really don’t understand the relevance. “Air bags can kill or injure upon impact.” Yeah, so? I read the porn ring story earlier and still can’t think of a bad enough punishment. What’s even more horrible - I’m betting for every person caught, there’s thousands who are still online diddling to kiddie porn undetected. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501/32 "2006-03-16T22:56:35Z")
> [@bonobo\_jones](#): > > Is this being offered up as some sort of excuse for child porn afficiandos? If you really think that was his point, you’re a moron. > [@bonobo\_jones](#): > > I really don’t understand the relevance. Well, i can’t claim to speak for **matt** , but a bunch of possibilities spring to mind. Perhaps the fact that, as well as ruining the lives of the actual children involved in their porn, these sick bastards also end up ruining the lives of other innocent folks. Or perhaps it’s a reminder that law enforcement needs to be cognizant of the fact that innocent people can, through identity theft or an unawareness of certain connections between different companies, be caught up in circumstances not of their own making. Maybe it was a simple caution that the people arrested are innocent until proven guilty, and that although it is clear that heinous stuff went on, it remains to be determined exactly whom is guilty of what. Or maybe **matt** is setting himself up for another election run by getting behind the infant porn constituency. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501/33 "2006-03-16T23:44:49Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > If you really think that was his point, you’re a moron. Well, i can’t claim to speak for **matt** , but a bunch of possibilities spring to mind. > > Perhaps the fact that, as well as ruining the lives of the actual children involved in their porn, these sick bastards also end up ruining the lives of other innocent folks. > > Or perhaps it’s a reminder that law enforcement needs to be cognizant of the fact that innocent people can, through identity theft or an unawareness of certain connections between different companies, be caught up in circumstances not of their own making. > > Maybe it was a simple caution that the people arrested are innocent until proven guilty, and that although it is clear that heinous stuff went on, it remains to be determined exactly whom is guilty of what. > > Or maybe **matt** is setting himself up for another election run by getting behind the infant porn constituency. :rolleyes: Nope, I’m not a moron. I’ve been called worse. OK, you raise _some_ valid points - I find this whole thing so despicable that I jumped on anything that sounded like a rationalization or diversion. Mind you every single type of crime - writing bad checks, auto theft, murder, rape - carries unintended and unforunate consequences for innocent people. So yeah, **matt\_mcl’s** post is a nonsequitor. “Innocent people harmed by crime.” Well duh. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501/34 "2006-03-17T00:12:38Z")
> [@bonobo\_jones](#): > > Nope, I’m not a moron. I’ve been called worse. > OK, you raise _some_ valid points - I find this whole thing so despicable that I jumped on anything that sounded like a rationalization or diversion. > > Mind you every single type of crime - writing bad checks, auto theft, murder, rape - carries unintended and unforunate consequences for innocent people. So yeah, > **matt\_mcl’s** post is a nonsequitor. “Innocent people harmed by crime.” > > Well duh. :rolleyes: I don’t think _non sequitur_ means what you thinks it means. ---
**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501/35 "2006-03-17T00:28:12Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I don’t think _non sequitur_ means what you thinks it means. Sure it does, even if I didn’t spell it correctly. Go look it up - that’s _exactly_ what I meant. I’m pretty sure **Matt** doesn’t need you to be his hall monitor; why don’t you let him respond if he wants? Why are you jumping on my shit about this? The whole thing was an aside; nothing to do with the OP, really. I’m pretty sure we agree on the salient point : Pedophiles are Nasty. Don’t we? ---
**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501/36 "2006-03-17T00:39:45Z")
Yes, pedophiles are nasty. Are these people pedophiles? Probably. Should we hold out some measure of reservation before condemning them, like, ya’ know, a guilty plea or verdict? Absolutely. It’s pretty simple, really. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501/37 "2006-03-17T00:42:13Z")
> [@bonobo\_jones](#): > > Sure it does, even if I didn’t spell it correctly. Go look it up - that’s _exactly_ what I meant. \*non se·qui·tur n. 1. An inference or conclusion that does not follow from the premises or evidence. 2. A statement that does not follow logically from what preceded it. \* Nope, looks like **mhendo** was right. If you really think **matt\_mcl** ’s post was a non sequitur, clearly you don’t understand what the term means. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501/38 "2006-03-17T00:43:04Z")
Nothing to it, hell yeah, USA#1. Don’t like it? Wachtya gonna about it do, punk? USA FUCKIN’ RULES, thanx to their ubercool men. PERIOD The End. ::::I may not live see it, but the end is near. Enjoy::::: What a waste… ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501/39 "2006-03-17T00:46:59Z")
Now _that_ was a non sequitor. See the difference, **bonobo**? ---
**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501/40 "2006-03-17T01:21:29Z")
OK, so that wasn’t a complete non sequitur. OK, so “Innocent people harmed by crime.” Well, _that’s_ a newsflash. Ooh. > [@](#): > > Are these people pedophiles? Probably. > > Should we hold out some measure of reservation before condemning them, like, ya’ know, a guilty plea or verdict? Absolutely. What’s the point of the OP then - let’s all reel in our outrage because these folks have not been found guilty in a court of law by a jury of their peers yet? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-can-we-get-a-pukey-smilie/348501.md?page=3)