# Now Charles is "The Judd" \[David Koch dead at 79\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 23, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-charles-is-the-judd-david-koch-dead-at-79/839100 "2019-08-23T13:41:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-charles-is-the-judd-david-koch-dead-at-79/839100/1 "2019-08-23T13:41:23Z")
David Koch dead at 79. > **[David Koch, billionaire and conservative activist, dies at 79](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/david-koch-billionaire-conservative-activist-philanthropist-dies-79-n1045696)** > > He and his brother, Charles Koch, helped to build a massive conservative network of donors to support libertarian-leaning economic policies. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-charles-is-the-judd-david-koch-dead-at-79/839100/2 "2019-08-23T13:49:11Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > David Koch dead at 79. > > [David Koch, billionaire conservative activist and philanthropist, dies at 79](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/david-koch-billionaire-conservative-activist-philanthropist-dies-79-n1045696) Just read this. You might want to change the thread title – it’s not overwhelmingly obvious what this refers to. My question is – What Happens Now? I don’t know anything about the Koch brother dynamic. Will this change Charles’ involvement? Or was the a driving force in funding the right wing? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-charles-is-the-judd-david-koch-dead-at-79/839100/3 "2019-08-23T13:53:25Z")
From what I’ve read, Charles Koch was the brother most involved and invested in the political movement. And I also understand that the organizations they set up are designed to out-live them. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-charles-is-the-judd-david-koch-dead-at-79/839100/4 "2019-08-23T14:30:19Z")
Dang. I guess all that money couldn’t buy immortality. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-charles-is-the-judd-david-koch-dead-at-79/839100/5 "2019-08-23T14:46:08Z")
What, Frederick and Bill are nothing? Just because you get into legal fights that lasted decades doesn’t mean that only Charles gets a mention. (Apparently old man Fred encouraged actual fighting, picking on, etc. among the brothers as children. Insert obvious pop-psych diagnosis here.) ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-charles-is-the-judd-david-koch-dead-at-79/839100/6 "2019-08-23T15:23:32Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > You might want to change the thread title – it’s not overwhelmingly obvious what this refers to. Yeah. What the hell is a “Judd”? ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-charles-is-the-judd-david-koch-dead-at-79/839100/7 "2019-08-23T15:39:58Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Yeah. What the hell is a “Judd”? Sorry. It was a “Larry Sanders Show” reference. When they had Wynonna Judd on the show (without Naomi), Larry’s co-host Hank introduced her as “The Judd” because there’s “just one of them.” The actual line spoken in the episode is “How do you place a value on a man who introduces Wynonna Judd as ‘The Judd?’” ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-charles-is-the-judd-david-koch-dead-at-79/839100/8 "2019-08-23T15:57:42Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Yeah. What the hell is a “Judd”? It’s more than that – The uninformed reading the thread title would have no idea that it refers to the death of David Koch. It’s just too obscure. I understand the point of being clever. But we should strive for transparency with wit. I know that can be a challenge. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-charles-is-the-judd-david-koch-dead-at-79/839100/9 "2019-08-23T16:45:43Z")
I thought this was going to be about the pet name the Duchess of Cornwall uses for her beau. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-charles-is-the-judd-david-koch-dead-at-79/839100/10 "2019-08-23T17:51:36Z")
Having just seen the news about David Koch, I figured an obscure reference to someone named Charles was about that news, even if I didn’t get the reference. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-charles-is-the-judd-david-koch-dead-at-79/839100/11 "2019-08-23T20:35:11Z")
I’ll say it: Fuck him and his entire life’s work and his entire fucking family. May they join him as soon as fate allows. ---
**Author:** ![Bumbazine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbazine/32/362_2.png) [@Bumbazine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbazine)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-charles-is-the-judd-david-koch-dead-at-79/839100/12 "2019-08-23T21:17:32Z")
“I did not attend his funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it.” ― Mark Twain ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-charles-is-the-judd-david-koch-dead-at-79/839100/13 "2019-08-24T10:14:54Z")
**Moderator Note** Thread title edited to more clearly indicate the topic. ---
**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-charles-is-the-judd-david-koch-dead-at-79/839100/14 "2019-08-24T11:59:46Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > I’ll say it: Fuck him and his entire life’s work and his entire fucking family. May they join him as soon as fate allows. You should only speak good of the dead. David Koch is dead. Good.