# Now, Harold Ford, Jr. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 9, 2017, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-harold-ford-jr/803983 "2017-12-09T02:10:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2017, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-harold-ford-jr/803983/1 "2017-12-09T02:10:01Z")
I’m putting this in MPSISMS more as a breaking news thing for comments. Seems too early to debate. [Former Congressman Harold Ford Jr. Fired For Misconduct By Morgan Stanley](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/harold-ford-fired-morgan-stanley_us_5a29743ee4b0b185e53a0ce6) > [@](#): > > Former Democratic Congressman Harold Ford Jr. has been fired for misconduct by Morgan Stanley after facing a human resources investigation into allegations of misconduct, a company spokeswoman confirmed. > > \ > > In two interviews with HuffPost, the woman alleged that Ford engaged in harassment, intimidation, and forcibly grabbed her one evening in Manhattan, leading her to seek aid from a building security guard. The incident took place several years ago when Ford and the woman were supposed to be meeting for professional reasons. Ford continued to contact her after the encounter until she wrote an email asking him to cease contact. > > The email, which was reviewed by HuffPost, shows that the woman emailed Ford after he repeatedly asked her to drinks. She asked him not to contact her anymore, citing his inappropriate conduct the evening where he forcibly grabbed and harassed her. > > Ford replied to the email by apologizing and agreeing not to contact her. “Hey very sorry. Meant no harm,” the email reads. “And I apologize for whatever I may have said or what was said. And my overtures are strictly professional. Again I apologize didn’t mean to be inappropriate at all. Sorry that impression was left.” ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Crap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.crap/32/3131_2.png) [@Dr.Crap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Crap)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-harold-ford-jr/803983/2 "2017-12-10T06:29:31Z")
There’s just something about Morning Joe… ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-harold-ford-jr/803983/3 "2017-12-10T09:53:32Z")
Damn, when your last name is “Ford” and you stride the world like the wealthy giant you are, and when some namby-pamby woman can get you fired after the leader of the free world grabs her pussy because he’s a star and they just let you do it…well, something’s wrong with that. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-harold-ford-jr/803983/4 "2017-12-10T14:06:15Z")
Am I being wooshed, here? Ford’s family is connected in Memphis and Tennessee and he’s certainly done well for himself. But he’s not a part of the ultrawealthy Ford family of the automaker group. He’s the black guy who lost the Senate race a few years ago. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-harold-ford-jr/803983/5 "2017-12-10T14:19:33Z")
Also, this is the actions of a private company, even though Ford is an ex-political guy. As noted, he was a regular on MSNBC’s _Morning Joe_, as was Mark Halperin. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-harold-ford-jr/803983/6 "2017-12-10T15:03:10Z")
The phrase, _‘Beware of your heroes’_, rings more true every day. Note: He was never my hero but I liked him and always felt he was a very reasonable and well respected political contributor. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-harold-ford-jr/803983/7 "2017-12-10T18:16:19Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > The phrase, _‘Beware of your heroes’_, rings more true every day. > > Note: He was never my hero but I liked him and always felt he was a very reasonable and well respected political contributor. Beware of my heroes for sure. As I’ve posted in other threads I’ve long believed his loss to Bob Corker in 2006 was what prevented the Democrats from passing truly great legislation in 2009 and 2010. Had he won I’m sure he would now be on the same path out that Conyers and Franken were recently on. And I would support his ouster just as much despite his being from a red state. I’m not going to stand behind these guys just for political convenience. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-harold-ford-jr/803983/8 "2017-12-10T18:19:04Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Am I being wooshed, here? Ford’s family is connected in Memphis and Tennessee and he’s certainly done well for himself. But he’s not a part of the ultrawealthy Ford family of the automaker group. > > He’s the black guy who lost the Senate race a few years ago. Sorry. Bad attempt at a joke.