# Now hear this, you whiney old farts: let me get my work done! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 25, 2006, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hear-this-you-whiney-old-farts-let-me-get-my-work-done/377878 "2006-10-25T19:18:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2006, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hear-this-you-whiney-old-farts-let-me-get-my-work-done/377878/101 "2006-10-31T05:50:51Z")
[QUOTE=lieu] If I take that nifty blue pill you mentioned… can we do it without talking? [/QUOTE] Lucky. I already took the red pill. If only I had taken the blue pill… ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2006, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hear-this-you-whiney-old-farts-let-me-get-my-work-done/377878/102 "2006-10-31T06:06:48Z")
[QUOTE=The King of Soup] Nope, **Sonia** , I’m done. I’ve conceded your right to be annoyed and been as persuasive as I can for the proposition that _still_ the attitudes toward old people you’ve displayed need to be examined before they do real harm… [/QUOTE] “Real harm?” Like, what? She’s going to flip out and clock the next Shriner who shows her a picture of his grandkids? ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2006, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hear-this-you-whiney-old-farts-let-me-get-my-work-done/377878/103 "2006-10-31T14:34:26Z")
[QUOTE=Foldup Rabbit] Wow. All people, in my little opinion, even those in customer service or public service or any other job involved with service, should be able to blow off steam. I’ve worked in both and bitched about both. [/QUOTE] I agree. It seems like restaurant and service workers, computer tech support workers, and others working in the public sector have their venting receivd by a welcome crowd. If you be a civil servant, though, you’ve got to smile through the bullshit, and not share your frustration with others. So, fellow Dopers, why do those working in the private sector have more of a right to vent about workplace issues and frustrating customers than those working for government? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2006, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hear-this-you-whiney-old-farts-let-me-get-my-work-done/377878/104 "2006-10-31T14:35:51Z")
[QUOTE=The King of Soup] Nope, **Sonia** , I’m done. I’ve conceded your right to be annoyed and been as persuasive as I can for the proposition that _still_ the attitudes toward old people you’ve displayed need to be examined before they do real harm, but even I draw the line at trying to teach compassion long distance. [/QUOTE] Condescend much? Put down those stones, you’re living in a glass house. ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2006, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hear-this-you-whiney-old-farts-let-me-get-my-work-done/377878/105 "2006-10-31T14:47:49Z")
[QUOTE=Caridwen] Call me crazy, but isn’t the town hall where they’re supposed to ask about this stuff? [/QUOTE] My mother sometimes calls AOL tech support when she’s having problems with Microsoft Word, because all computer stuff is just the same, right? I work as an urban planner for a local government agency. I’m not qualified to answer questions about the library, child support, conditions for parole, and other things. Becuase government workers are percieved to be in a postion of authority, I would be negligent in my duties if I did attempt to answer such questions; my answer would probably be wrong. Likewise, most folks probably wouldn’t ask a social worker about the maximum height for a fence, or a police officer if their property is in a 100 year flood plain. There’s a misconception among many that, in local government, everybody has to know everything about all government regulations and services. If you’re asking about your water bill, do you think you’ll get a good answer from a zoning officer or the city manager’s secretary? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2006, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hear-this-you-whiney-old-farts-let-me-get-my-work-done/377878/106 "2006-10-31T16:05:03Z")
[QUOTE=elmwood] I agree. It seems like restaurant and service workers, computer tech support workers, and others working in the public sector have their venting receivd by a welcome crowd. If you be a civil servant, though, you’ve got to smile through the bullshit, and not share your frustration with others. So, fellow Dopers, why do those working in the private sector have more of a right to vent about workplace issues and frustrating customers than those working for government? [/QUOTE] No, pretty much when you come to the PIT and rant about your _customers_, some of us will give you a ration of shit about it. No matter who your customers are. Sometimes, if we have walked a mile in those moccasins, there will be some who empathize, and a lot of DoperDudes will come to the “rescue” of DoperBabes and support them. It’s sort of the SDMB equivilant of chinning yourself 18 times to show off, I guess. In fact, there’s a very real chance that just about any PITing will come back and bite you in the ass. Even if you rant about Telemarketers, someone will chime in and defend the “poor Telemarketer who is just doing their job.” But look at it this way- your customers are the hand that feeds you. Ranting \*too \* bitterly and angrily about that hand seems a bit much, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2006, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hear-this-you-whiney-old-farts-let-me-get-my-work-done/377878/107 "2006-10-31T17:15:46Z")
[QUOTE=DrDeth] But look at it this way- your customers are the hand that feeds you. Ranting \*too \* bitterly and angrily about that hand seems a bit much, eh? [/QUOTE] But how bitterly is too bitterly? _Some_ amount of venting should be allowed, but you and others seem to think anything less than “Thank you sir, may I have another?” with a smile is bitter and ungrateful and _it’s your job_ to take shit. I can get on board when someone is dumb enough to complain about _doing the work they were hired to do_, but babysitting retired folk with too much time on their hands is not in **Sonia** ’s job description, just like it’s not in a server’s job description to receive abuse from a dining patron with a smile. Further, they may even do so with a smile, but why should they truly, sincerely be happy about it behind the facade? Why do they have to abase themselves _that much_ that they are truly happy to have someone waste their time or treat them like shit? They shouldn’t be, and if venting here helps them deal with the idiocy when it happens, then great, awesome, let them. They’re employees, not slaves, fergodsake. ---
**Author:** ![Sonia\_Montdore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Sonia\_Montdore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sonia_Montdore)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2006, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hear-this-you-whiney-old-farts-let-me-get-my-work-done/377878/108 "2006-10-31T19:25:47Z")
Has anybody ever seen DrDeth and The King of Soup together in the same room? ---
**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2006, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hear-this-you-whiney-old-farts-let-me-get-my-work-done/377878/109 "2006-10-31T19:33:02Z")
Just now, I honked at an old lady who hadn’t seen the light turn green (she was also on the line between two lanes). I felt that this thread was the best place to share it. She was, incidentally, going to City Hall. ---
**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hear-this-you-whiney-old-farts-let-me-get-my-work-done/377878/110 "2006-11-01T19:21:15Z")
[QUOTE=Sattua] Just now, I honked at an old lady who hadn’t seen the light turn green (she was also on the line between two lanes). I felt that this thread was the best place to share it. She was, incidentally, going to City Hall. [/QUOTE] Give Sonia a break. She was probably rushing back to City Hall to deal with the old farts. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![galt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@galt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galt)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2006, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hear-this-you-whiney-old-farts-let-me-get-my-work-done/377878/111 "2006-11-02T05:25:58Z")
[QUOTE=elmwood] It seems like restaurant and service workers, computer tech support workers, and others working in the public sector have their venting receivd by a welcome crowd. [/QUOTE] I have applied “soup logic” to this statement and come to the conclusion that those people should not complain either. After all, it is obviously a waiter’s _job_ to deal with assholes, or his boss would have provided some kind of asshole screening system. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hear-this-you-whiney-old-farts-let-me-get-my-work-done/377878.md?page=5)