# Now Hillary plays the KKK card **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 26, 2016, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983 "2016-08-26T02:07:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983/1 "2016-08-26T02:07:42Z")
A new Clinton ad seeks to tie Trump to the KKK. [LINK](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/clinton-ad-kkk-trump-227404) This is a new low even for Hillary. Lets dont talk about policy or issues. Let’s call him a clansman. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983/2 "2016-08-26T02:10:13Z")
Watch the speech she made. You don’t have to read the Mother Jones article but the video is t the bottom. She lays all his racism and ties to white nationalists step by step. > **[Hillary Clinton just made the case for why the Trump campaign is racist](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-alt-right-stephen-bannon-racist/)** > > In a speech, the Democratic nominee accused her opponent of spreading hate and associating with bigots. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983/3 "2016-08-26T02:12:16Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > A new Clinton ad seeks to tie Trump to the KKK. [LINK](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/clinton-ad-kkk-trump-227404) > > This is a new low even for Hillary. Lets dont talk about policy or issues. Let’s call him a clansman. Let’s talk about the things that Trump has said, including accusing the President (with zero evidence) of falsifying his own birth records; calling Mexican immigrants rapists; saying a judge can’t do his job because of his Mexican heritage; feigning ignorance about David Duke even though he repudiated him publicly in 2000; and much more. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983/4 "2016-08-26T02:15:14Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > A new Clinton ad seeks to tie Trump to the KKK. [LINK](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/clinton-ad-kkk-trump-227404) > > This is a new low even for Hillary. Lets dont talk about policy or issues. Let’s call him a clansman. Does the allegation of his campaign being tied to white supremacists bother you more than him being called a racist for all the racist things he has said? As in, it is fine to call him racist, just don’t imply he allies with white supremacists? ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983/5 "2016-08-26T02:16:03Z")
I’m somewhat surprised she had the guts to call him out on his implicit support of racists and racism. Not with her usual caution. Good for her; it shows she’ll do what it takes to win the campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983/6 "2016-08-26T02:16:33Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > A new Clinton ad seeks to tie Trump to the KKK. [LINK](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/clinton-ad-kkk-trump-227404) I encourage everyone to view the ad at that Politico link. Here’s a direct link to the new ad about Donald Trump and how much the KKK approve of him - The ad is mostly people like KKK wizards and David Duke, speaking in their own words and their own voices, saying that they support Donald Trump because Donald Trump supports things that are important to white supremacists. I encourage everyone to give it a listen. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983/7 "2016-08-26T02:21:41Z")
And please watch the video I shared. It’s one of the most powerful speeches I’ve ever seen. She not only calls him out but step by step makes the case that he is fully aligned with racists and that he’s dangerous ---
**Author:** ![dreamregent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6f9a4e/32.png) [@dreamregent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dreamregent)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983/8 "2016-08-26T02:27:59Z")
Actually, Trump hitched his own wagon to these people via his rhetoric. Trump often displays ignorance and an erroneous grasp of reality but he’s not an idiot. He knows what kind of audience he’s attracted and I’d suggest he’s rather proficient at telegraphing the dog whistles they recognize. It appears to me his rhetoric over the past week concerning black people bears striking similarities to that of White Citizens’ Councils of the 1950s and 60s, though it’s more nuanced. In particular, he’s given a more refined version of the “block voting” topic (misguided black people have been duped and manipulated into voting for liberals and then get nothing for it) and his erroneously referring to Clinton as a bigot is typical behavior for people who are bigots themselves. For example, civil rights activists were deemed bigots by White Citizens’ Councils for protesting segregation. Hence, this is an issue worthy of consideration. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983/9 "2016-08-26T02:33:39Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > I’m somewhat surprised she had the guts to call him out on his implicit support of racists and racism. Not with her usual caution. Good for her; it shows she’ll do what it takes to win the campaign. She got pushed into it by Trump calling her a bigot. Pretty stupid of him to start the racist game. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983/10 "2016-08-26T03:05:18Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > I encourage everyone to view the ad at that Politico link. Here’s a direct link to the new ad about Donald Trump and how much the KKK approve of him - > > > The ad is mostly people like KKK wizards and David Duke, speaking in their own words and their own voices, saying that they support Donald Trump because Donald Trump supports things that are important to white supremacists. > > I encourage everyone to give it a listen. Every candidate gets people voting for them whom they might not approve. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983/11 "2016-08-26T03:06:52Z")
That is not what’s going on here. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983/12 "2016-08-26T03:07:48Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > A new Clinton ad seeks to tie Trump to the KKK. [LINK](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/clinton-ad-kkk-trump-227404) > > This is a new low even for Hillary. Lets dont talk about policy or issues. Let’s call him a clansman. That is what he gets for getting closer to guys that are like that or have friends that are like that. Trump is just following (what he thinks) it will be a winning tactic, just like sheriff Joe Arpaio has done in Arizona for many years. > **[Neo-Nazis and Extreme Right-Wingers Love Joe Arpaio, and Theres Evidence that...](https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/neo-nazis-and-extreme-right-wingers-love-joe-arpaio-and-theres-evidence-that-the-mcso-keeps-them-close-6433053)** > > Strapped with a sidearm, carrying an Arizona flag, and wearing a golf cap and ink-black sunglasses, the neo-Nazi insisted that he not be referred to as a Nazi of any sort. "I'm a National Socialist!" he declared proudly. Though he would reveal his... > [@](#): > > Aside from speaking to a group with neo-Nazi ties, Arpaio has also served as a “rallying point” for white supremacists, in the words of Arizona ADL director Straus. For instance, on the white nationalist site [Stormfront.org](http://Stormfront.org), whole discussion strings are devoted to Joe Arpaio’s so-called patriotic actions. > > “I love to see a white man stand up for himself,” wrote one Stormfront member recently under the handle “direct action.” > > In the same thread, a Stormfronter from Arizona named “DesertFox63” stated, “Sheriff Joe is my man, yes he is. I voted for him all 5 times.” > > As with neo-Nazis counter-protesting the Walk for Respect, Arpaio has never disavowed support from the racist right. And such radicals have flocked to demonstrations supporting him. The sheriff may get reelected again in Arizona, and that will once again make Arizona one of the laughing stocks of America. Fortunately, it looks like most of America does not want to see bigotry and autocracy to become the rule of the land. And it is too late to think that Trump will change his tune, even his recent flip flop on immigration is just empty rhetoric until he does publicly extirpate from his hip guys like racial profiler, contempt of court and [very likely criminal Joe Arpaio](http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/08/joe-arpaio-criminal-contempt/496778/). ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983/13 "2016-08-26T03:09:52Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > I encourage everyone to view the ad at that Politico link. Here’s a direct link to the new ad about Donald Trump and how much the KKK approve of him - > > > The ad is mostly people like KKK wizards and David Duke, speaking in their own words and their own voices, saying that they support Donald Trump because Donald Trump supports things that are important to white supremacists. > > I encourage everyone to give it a listen. Ironically, the description to this YouTube video is clearly not a Clinton supporter and calls it hypocritical because her “mentor” Robert Byrd was allegedly a grand dragon/wizard/Pokemon whatever. Where do these idiots get this info on Byrd? Brietbart perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983/14 "2016-08-26T03:14:52Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > And please watch the video I shared. It’s one of the most powerful speeches I’ve ever seen. She not only calls him out but step by step makes the case that he is fully aligned with racists and that he’s dangerous and she kept her cool while doing , she didn’t look like a mad woman like she did when she ran against Obama . I still not a fan of her and not happy about having to pick her or Trump ! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983/15 "2016-08-26T03:18:23Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Ironically, the description to this YouTube video is clearly not a Clinton supporter and calls it hypocritical because her “mentor” Robert Byrd was allegedly a grand dragon/wizard/Pokemon whatever. Where do these idiots get this info on Byrd? Brietbart perhaps? [He was in the KKK.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd#Ku_Klux_Klan) Back in the 1940s. Young and stupid. > [@](#): > > In the early 1940s, Byrd recruited 150 of his friends and associates to create a new chapter of the Ku Klux Klan in Sophia, West Virginia.[12][13] > > According to Byrd, a Klan official told him, “You have a talent for leadership, Bob … The country needs young men like you in the leadership of the nation.” Byrd later recalled, “Suddenly lights flashed in my mind! Someone important had recognized my abilities! I was only 23 or 24 years old, and the thought of a political career had never really hit me. But strike me that night, it did.” > > However, when running for the United States House of Representatives in 1952, he announced “After about a year, I became disinterested, quit paying my dues, and dropped my membership in the organization. During the nine years that have followed, I have never been interested in the Klan.” He said he had joined the Klan because he felt it offered excitement and was anti-communist. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983/16 "2016-08-26T03:26:10Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [He was in the KKK.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd#Ku_Klux_Klan) Back in the 1940s. Young and stupid. Thank you. Looking him up, even the NAACP gave condolences on his passing, citing his long work for civil rights and his denouncement of the KKK. In the '40s, this was more mainstream than now for damn sure, I’m betting. But this isn’t that smart a move for her campaign. She’s fighting against a candidate that have no interest in researching, facts or history. No one will look up his history in politics-- Breitbart will just post a headline to reassure them. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983/17 "2016-08-26T03:33:41Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Thank you. Looking him up, even the NAACP gave condolences on his passing, citing his long work for civil rights and his denouncement of the KKK. In the '40s, this was more mainstream than now for damn sure, I’m betting. But this isn’t that smart a move for her campaign. She’s fighting against a candidate that have no interest in researching, facts or history. No one will look up his history in politics-- Breitbart will just post a headline to reassure them. :rolleyes: As a Hispanic I think it is a smart move, actually a bit delayed IMHO. It is good, in light of Trump’s weak sauced flip flop on immigration, to remember what Trump did and continues to do by not denouncing his bigoted personnel, because when one is dealing with a guy with zero political experience one has to realize that **personnel is policy.** ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983/18 "2016-08-26T03:34:39Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Every candidate gets people voting for them whom they might not approve. But Donald Trump is the one who’s actively retweeting messages from white supremacists. Donald Trump is the guy who reuses white supremacist graphics in his campaign messages. Donald Trump is the one who encouraged David Duke to come out of retirement. Donald Trump is the one that KKK wizards believe cares about their goals. Donald Trump: The Bigot’s Choice! ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983/19 "2016-08-26T03:35:19Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > She not only calls him out but step by step makes the case that he is fully aligned with racists and that he’s dangerous That sounds like a pretty substantial “issue” to me. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983/20 "2016-08-26T03:42:30Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Thank you. Looking him up, even the NAACP gave condolences on his passing, citing his long work for civil rights and his denouncement of the KKK. In the '40s, this was more mainstream than now for damn sure, I’m betting. But this isn’t that smart a move for her campaign. She’s fighting against a candidate that have no interest in researching, facts or history. No one will look up his history in politics-- Breitbart will just post a headline to reassure them. :rolleyes: She’s not going to win over Donald’s fans. His fans already know he’s a white supremacist. That’s what they like about him. This commercial is aimed at the people who aren’t really bigots but who are maybe willing to be ignore the bigotry from Donald’s campaign if he gives them the figleaf of his “outreach” to black voters. It’s why he keeps giving that black outreach speech to rooms full of white people. He’s trying to front like he cares about the plight of the poor blacks (which is all their own fault of course, with the drugs, and the absentee fathers, and the poverty) so that voters can vote for him without feeling like a bad person for supporting a bigot. I think it’s both smart and ballsy to just put Donald’s bigotry out on the table where people can’t pretend they don’t smell it. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-hillary-plays-the-kkk-card/763983.md?page=2)