# Now I have seen it all: Kos blogger wants Pelosi impeached **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 13, 2007, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964 "2007-05-13T22:49:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964/21 "2007-05-14T13:10:04Z")
[QUOTE=Pochacco] You understand how Daily Kos works, right? Anyone who’s registered can post a diary. Other members then vote on it. Stuff that the community agrees with rises to the top. Random crackpot stuff drops off the list. This was posted at 8:30 this morning and it’s already gone from the main page. [/QUOTE] Exactly. Since I’ve got an account over there, I could post a diary saying that everyone in all three branches of the U.S. government is complicit in U.S. war crimes, and so everyone from Bush and Cheney down to the janitors at the U.S. District Court buildings should be turned over to The Hague, tried for war crimes, and fed to lions in an A.D. 20’s-style Roman arena. And if someone noticed that I’d done so, what would that prove about anyone other than me? Nothing. Zip. Diddly-squat. Kevin Drum invented a term for this which I like: “nutpicking.” It’s the art of judging a particular blog, or even better, the entire left or right blogosphere (as the case may be), by the stupidest and most extreme things that commenters - not the bloggers themselves, but random people who stop by and post comments - say at that blog. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964/22 "2007-05-14T13:17:24Z")
[QUOTE=Airman Doors, USAF] 4) Let’s be realistic. Bush has very little time left and as a lame duck President can do little more than obstruct the Democratic agenda and lead to the further ruin of the Republican Party. [/QUOTE] Since the soldiers are already in the area, he could order an invasion of Iran and demand more troops and money and accuse the Democrats of abandoning the troops when they refuse to support it. Given how gutless the Democrats tend to be it might even work. He could launch cruise missles at Iran ( or who knows who else ). He could order the CIA and other covert agencies to do all sorts of crazy or corrupt things. He has a lot of power, and refuses to recognize any limits on that power. While I don’t expect it to happen, impeaching him ( and Cheney if that’s even possible; how **do** you get rid of a VP if the President won’t ? ) would at least keep them busy even if it takes so long he gets out of office normally. I agree with **Blalron** that it would take jail time to feel like justice had beeen done. Jail time and massive, massive fines. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964/23 "2007-05-14T13:25:29Z")
[QUOTE=zuma] I just wonder why anyone takes these psuedo-journalist “bloggers” seriously. I mean any of us can spew crap, but I don’t get why the media is so inept as to take these obese idiots seriously. I don’t, but maybe it is just me. [/QUOTE] I dunno how many of them are obese. The only one I can think of is Jonah Goldberg. Anyone can start a blog (I’ve done so), but the act of starting a blog doesn’t guarantee you an audience, for precisely that reason: if anyone can start a blog, then lots and lots of people _do_ start blogs, and unless you have something particularly insightful to say that nobody else is saying, then nobody’s going to read your stuff. But some blogs have managed to gain and hold some pretty impressive audiences. Hundreds of thousands of people visit Daily Kos, Eschaton, Firedoglake, AmericaBlog, and a number of other major blogs each day. If you can grab and hold that big an audience just by your own self, without a newspaper, magazine, TV or cable network giving you space and/or time, then you’re obviously speaking not just for yourself, but for a pretty good chunk of people. Consequently, what you say is newsworthy. The notion that the mainstream media are up against some guy Vinny in a bathrobe who hasn’t left his apartment in two years (as some MSM guy whose name escapes me recently said) is bullshit. On the left, there’s probably only 15-20 blogs at most that might be noticed by anyone in the MSM to begin with, and unless Vinny is one of the front-page bloggers at one of those blogs, or has his posts promoted by someone who is, then he’s invisible to them, and they don’t have to contend with him at all. The MSM really only have to respond in any way to the very cream of the blogosphere, and they’re only going to reprint material from the posts of a small handful of successful bloggers. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964/24 "2007-05-14T13:49:21Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] Anybody makes a “sperm whale” joke, and the little dog gets it! I’m warning you…! [/QUOTE] Sei what? I’ve heard they’re as sexually aggressive as, say, a Minke in heat… ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964/25 "2007-05-14T16:33:27Z")
[QUOTE=zuma] I just wonder why anyone takes these psuedo-journalist “bloggers” seriously. I mean any of us can spew crap, but I don’t get why the media is so inept as to take these obese idiots seriously. I don’t, but maybe it is just me. [/QUOTE] Eh? The media (newspapers and TV) hardly ever mention them, that I’ve seen/heard. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964/26 "2007-05-14T20:01:05Z")
I don’t understand what’s so surprising about it. It’s standard nonsense for extremist nutjobs who tie national politics a little too intricately with their own dissatisfaction over whether Mommy Breastfed them or Daddy Buttfucked them enough. Politician A is ostensibly on my ‘team’. Politician A makes decision I don’t like she should be kicked off the team. For most of us Politics is like sports. Think if Derek Jeter made like two or three major errors at the end of the season and into the playoffs. Now imagine the entertaining Post headlines about what a dumbass he is. It’s how it works. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964/27 "2007-05-14T20:55:49Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] The notion that the mainstream media are up against some guy Vinny in a bathrobe who hasn’t left his apartment in two years (as some MSM guy whose name escapes me recently said) [/QUOTE] [NBC anchor Brian Williams](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/2007/04/24/the-quotable-brian-willia_e_45775.html). > [@](#): > > “You’re going to be up against people who have an opinion, a modem, and a bathrobe,” said Williams. “All of my life, developing credentials to cover my field of work, and now I’m up against a guy named Vinny in an efficiency apartment in the Bronx who hasn’t left the efficiency apartment in two years.” ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964/28 "2007-05-14T22:06:04Z")
[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian] Okay, I don’t actually believe for a second that **Airman Doors** came by this honestly, nor that he is very concerned about what the “Kos-heads” actually say or think. I think it’s a bullshit faux-outrage expose (imagine an accent aigu over the last “e” there). [/QUOTE] I think that if I said that an airplane could fly you would move heaven and earth to try to prove that it couldn’t because it was me that said it. I’m not quite sure what your deal is, but I wish you would get a grip on it. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964/29 "2007-05-14T22:57:20Z")
[QUOTE=Airman Doors, USAF] I think that if I said that an airplane could fly you would move heaven and earth to try to prove that it couldn’t because it was me that said it. I’m not quite sure what your deal is, but I wish you would get a grip on it. [/QUOTE] Okay, so how did you just happen upon this grist for your outrage? I’ve gone to DailyKos and looked over all the main page stories back to May 11th. It’s not there. You would have to be perusing the Diaries to come across this, it seems to me. I don’t even peruse the Diaries there. Given that you disparage Kos readers by callling them Kos heads, I’m guessing that you don’t spend your time reading the opinions of the rank and file folks there. Or you could, like so many of the persecuted conservatives here, cry that you are being stalked! Stalked and persecuted! Oh woe is me! Or, if you don’t want me calling you on bullshit, you could stop posting bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964/30 "2007-05-14T23:01:09Z")
[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian] Okay, so how did you just happen upon this grist for your outrage? I’ve gone to DailyKos and looked over all the main page stories back to May 11th. It’s not there. You would have to be perusing the Diaries to come across this, it seems to me. I don’t even peruse the Diaries there. [/quote] So? > [@](#): > > Given that you disparage Kos readers by callling them Kos heads, I’m guessing that you don’t spend your time reading the opinions of the rank and file folks there. I didn’t consider it disparaging. It’s an allusion to the movie _PCU_, where the “causeheads” were protestors. Which, not coincidentally, is what the Democratic Party has been until recently. > [@](#): > > Or you could, like so many of the persecuted conservatives here, cry that you are being stalked! Stalked and persecuted! Oh woe is me! I’m not being stalked except by people that call bullshit on everything I say or suggest motives that don’t exist, which I find exasperating. > [@](#): > > Or, if you don’t want me calling you on bullshit, you could stop posting bullshit. Fine. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964/31 "2007-05-14T23:04:27Z")
Don’t want to answer, huh? Not surprising. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964/32 "2007-05-14T23:51:51Z")
[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian] Okay, so how did you just happen upon this grist for your outrage? I’ve gone to DailyKos and looked over all the main page stories back to May 11th. It’s not there. [/QUOTE] Just click on the link in the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964/33 "2007-05-15T00:11:22Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] Just click on the link in the OP. [/QUOTE] I see that. I’m asking how he happened to come upon it. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964/34 "2007-05-15T00:19:57Z")
I go to Daily Kos quite frequently (multiple times a day, usually), and I look at the diary list. There’s a lot of stuff on the front page, but there’s also a lot that doesn’t make it there, **Hentor**. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964/35 "2007-05-15T00:27:10Z")
[QUOTE=Captain Carrot] I go to Daily Kos quite frequently (multiple times a day, usually), and I look at the diary list. There’s a lot of stuff on the front page, but there’s also a lot that doesn’t make it there, **Hentor**. [/QUOTE] Sure, I may have jumped the gun and falsely accused **Airman Doors** of trying to propagate something that he picked up on a site that might be more his political speed than DailyKos. I’ll readily admit to being wrong and apologizing. If I am wrong, that is. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964/36 "2007-05-15T01:07:21Z")
[QUOTE=Captain Carrot] I go to Daily Kos quite frequently (multiple times a day, usually), and I look at the diary list. There’s a lot of stuff on the front page, but there’s also a lot that doesn’t make it there, **Hentor**. [/QUOTE] Well yeah, but _to have seen this diary without being pointed to it_, you’d either (a) have to be someone who’d look at the diary list, beyond the handful of most recently posted diaries on the front page, OR (b) have been so lucky as to check in on DKos when this diary WAS one of the most recently posted diaries. **Airman Doors** isn’t as conservative as he comes across sometimes, but I’d be surprised to find that he spends very much time at Le Grand Orange. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964/37 "2007-05-15T01:08:48Z")
[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian] Sure, I may have jumped the gun and falsely accused **Airman Doors** of trying to propagate something that he picked up on a site that might be more his political speed than DailyKos. I’ll readily admit to being wrong and apologizing. If I am wrong, that is. [/QUOTE] Man, you have a **lot** of apologizing to do. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964/38 "2007-05-15T01:13:44Z")
Picked up Kossack cooties. Worse kind. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964/39 "2007-05-15T01:54:58Z")
[QUOTE=duffer] Man, you have a **lot** of apologizing to do. [/QUOTE] It _does_ look that way: > [@](#): > > [Your search - link:http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/13/11050/8401 - did not match any documents.](http://www.google.com/search?as_lq=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstory%2F2007%2F5%2F13%2F11050%2F8401&btnG=Search) > … > [Your search - link:http://melvynny.dailykos.com/ - did not match any documents.](http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=link%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fmelvynny.dailykos.com%2F&btnG=Search) ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964/40 "2007-05-15T01:58:53Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] Well yeah, but _to have seen this diary without being pointed to it_, you’d either (a) have to be someone who’d look at the diary list, beyond the handful of most recently posted diaries on the front page, OR (b) have been so lucky as to check in on DKos when this diary WAS one of the most recently posted diaries. **Airman Doors** isn’t as conservative as he comes across sometimes, but I’d be surprised to find that he spends very much time at Le Grand Orange. [/QUOTE] Let’s put that in plain English. **Doors** , just happens to be one of your self-made ‘heroes’ just by virtue of belonging to the US armed forces. It is intrinsic in your culture that anyone who fights for ‘you’ is, by default, someone above criticism – by default, any and all blame, falls on The Deciders. Well, fuck that twice over. **Airman** was one of the most gong-ho members of the ‘Invade Iraq’ crowd, claiming against facts that the US Government “knew” better than anyone else – but that said inside info couldn’t be divulged due to obvious security reasons. Then when all that Bushit turns into what it is, Bushit, **Airman** feels betrayed by both his Party and its Supreme Leader. So he “softens up” on all his hyper-macho, uberamerican positions and claims to become a “gentler, kinder, conservative,” mainly due to his Party’s deceit and break-away from its roots. I call bullshit on the whole thing – from hero to moderate conservative, never mind Progressive. He’s just another macho-man conservative a-hole, who many of you lack the balls to call as such. Why? Well, obviously, he is a cog in your Empire, and you wouldn’t want many/any of them misfiring. Even if intellectually he is just a product of your own putrid environment…sad enough he can’t see past that very point. Best of luck to you all. You are going to need it in your militaristic culture. 300 was nothing but a movie unlike 'nam and Iraq. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-seen-it-all-kos-blogger-wants-pelosi-impeached/403964.md?page=3)