# Now I have to Pit Hucklebee and Guiliani. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 4, 2008, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-to-pit-hucklebee-and-guiliani/461944 "2008-09-04T05:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-to-pit-hucklebee-and-guiliani/461944/1 "2008-09-04T05:26:17Z")
These two clowns somehow got the stage tonight. Some higher power saved the world from either of them being on the ticket. Gomer Pyle gets up there and tells some inane story about some insane teacher making her students “earn” their desk. What the hell that had to do with anything is beyond my imagination. It had to have been the most stupid story/analogy/message ever offered. Of course, then you have to hear all of the dittoheads cheering. Hey Gomer, if you’re trying to say that being in a war is the deciding criteria look at your own chickenhawk party. It’s led by a bunch of cowards that refused to fight or even serve in a combat situation. Then Guiliani gets up there and mocks Obama. He tries to make some equation between between being a community organizer and being the mayor of some podunck town in Alaska. Hey Rudy, you stupid hypocritical, philandering fuck, Obama is a United States Senator from a very populace state. He has a law degree from Harvard and was the head of the Harvard Law Review. Rudy, you’re an asshole. You prove the saying, "You can fool some of the people all of the time (the dittoheads that cheered you tonight), all of the people some of the time (we bought into your “leadership” after 9/11), but not all of the people all of the time (your kids despise you, your current wife who was you mistress while everyone was wowing you is an insufferable slut, and everyone else that has watched you operate since then realizes you are a corrupt, one-trick pony). Tonight was a sad display. What’s more appalling is that there are people that buy into the bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Shecky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@Shecky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shecky)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-to-pit-hucklebee-and-guiliani/461944/2 "2008-09-04T11:30:37Z")
Agreed. As much as I am really unhappy with either side, serving 2 years as Governor of a state with less than a million people does NOT mean you’re ready to possibly lead the nation of 300+ million. And now, in the interest of fairness, getting elected because your former, VERY popular opponent was into doing kinky sex things with Seven of Nine also does NOT make you the wunderkind. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-to-pit-hucklebee-and-guiliani/461944/3 "2008-09-04T11:41:00Z")
> [@Shecky](#): > > And now, in the interest of fairness, getting elected because your former, VERY popular opponent was into doing kinky sex things with Seven of Nine also does NOT make you the wunderkind. When was Ryan - I mean Jack, not Jeri - _very_ popular? Obama won going away after Ryan’s campaign exploded but it looked like he was going to win anyway. Wikipedia says he had a lead of 22 percentage points in early polls, although I didn’t remember the spread being that big. Anyway, shit like the OP is why I haven’t been watching this week. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-to-pit-hucklebee-and-guiliani/461944/4 "2008-09-04T12:53:42Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > When was Ryan - I mean Jack, not Jeri - _very_ popular? Obama won going away after Ryan’s campaign exploded but it looked like he was going to win anyway. Wikipedia says he had a lead of 22 percentage points in early polls, although I didn’t remember the spread being that big. > > Anyway, shit like the OP is why I haven’t been watching this week. 😉 Jack was a rising star around here (IL) until the “scandal” nipped him. Palin actually had some things right in that display last night, while it’s true that being the mayor of Nowhere, Alaska has nothing to do with governing, being the Governor of a state (no matter how many people are in it) does. Look at our last five presidents, Bush II, Reagan, Clinton and Carter were all Governors first. Bush I was the only non-Governor in the past 30 years to run this country. I’m as far away from McCain as I can be, but some of the things that Palin had to say not only make sense, but will energize the party. It’s going to be a horse race to the end, I just hope the right horse wins. Oh, and fuck Rudy. ---
**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-to-pit-hucklebee-and-guiliani/461944/5 "2008-09-04T13:46:27Z")
> [@buttonjockey308](#): > > Jack was a rising star around here (IL) until the “scandal” nipped him. Palin actually had some things right in that display last night, while it’s true that being the mayor of Nowhere, Alaska has nothing to do with governing, being the Governor of a state (no matter how many people are in it) does. Look at our last five presidents, Bush II, Reagan, Clinton and Carter were all Governors first. Bush I was the only non-Governor in the past 30 years to run this country. I’m as far away from McCain as I can be, but some of the things that Palin had to say not only make sense, but will energize the party. > > It’s going to be a horse race to the end, I just hope the right horse wins. > > Oh, and fuck Rudy. The problem with the governor comparison is that Alaska is so unlike any other state in the U.S., geographically and economically, how can you make a comparison? When your biggest problem is how much money you are going to send your residents each year how can you relate to states that continually find themselves in fiscal messes. What experience do you have with inner city problems, mass transit, crumbling infrastructure, massive illegal immigration issues, disappearing manufacturing jobs and deficits? In any business, government or institution, when you are flush with money it is a whole lot easier to look like a good manager. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-to-pit-hucklebee-and-guiliani/461944/6 "2008-09-04T13:56:38Z")
Guiliani is a grade-A moron. Whether he is making speeches, talking on Meet The Press or Face The Nation, or whatever I can’t bear to listen to the guy talk. Just non-sensical rhetoric where he argues himself in circles. If you listen closely you realize he is saying absolutely nothing. Then he grins and gives his short “heh-heh, get it? heh-heh.” ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-to-pit-hucklebee-and-guiliani/461944/7 "2008-09-04T14:05:28Z")
It just shows what level of regard Republicans have for community. Now if Obama had been a coporation orginizer… ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-to-pit-hucklebee-and-guiliani/461944/8 "2008-09-04T15:25:25Z")
> [@buttonjockey308](#): > > Palin actually had some things right in that display last night, while it’s true that being the mayor of Nowhere, Alaska has nothing to do with governing, being the Governor of a state (no matter how many people are in it) does. Bull. Having experience, in general, is better than not having experience, but what matters is the skill of the candidate. We’ve had shitty experienced Presidents, shitty inexperienced Presidents, awesome experienced Presidents, and awesome inexperienced Presidents. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-to-pit-hucklebee-and-guiliani/461944/9 "2008-09-04T15:28:42Z")
> [@buttonjockey308](#): > > Look at our last five presidents, Bush II, Reagan, Clinton and Carter were all Governors first. And what a mixed bag of quality we have there. From either side of the political spectrum. 😃 Being a governor doesn’t prove shit as regarding ability to be president. ---
**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-to-pit-hucklebee-and-guiliani/461944/10 "2008-09-04T17:42:42Z")
> [@Spartydog](#): > > The problem with the governor comparison is that Alaska is so unlike any other state in the U.S., geographically and economically, how can you make a comparison? When your biggest problem is how much money you are going to send your residents each year how can you relate to states that continually find themselves in fiscal messes. What experience do you have with inner city problems, mass transit, crumbling infrastructure, massive illegal immigration issues, disappearing manufacturing jobs and deficits? > > In any business, government or institution, when you are flush with money it is a whole lot easier to look like a good manager. How can you not compare? Running, at an executive level, any corporation, municipality or state gives you a perspective unattainable at other levels of government or even at levels higher up the food chain. You have to deal with the day-to-day operations on some level, or find people who will do the job the right way. Frankly, she has a better record than any of the other three fellas in the race. What she has to say is fundamentally correct. Barack has street level experience and that of a legislator, McCain has rich white guy experience and that of a legislator, Biden has regular guy experience, and that of a legislator. None of them have the experience from the level she does. I disagree with her stances on damn near everything. I think she’s as close to a right wing radical as we’ve seen in ages and I think McCain is full-on batshit, however, about this, she’s correct. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-to-pit-hucklebee-and-guiliani/461944/11 "2008-09-04T18:07:22Z")
Oh, I see. A campaign at this level doesn’t count as a corporation? Good to know. ---
**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-i-have-to-pit-hucklebee-and-guiliani/461944/12 "2008-09-04T21:39:06Z")
> [@Captain\_Carrot](#): > > Oh, I see. A campaign at this level doesn’t count as a corporation? Good to know. :rolleyes: Oy.