# Now in the pit: Someone tried to shoot up an FBI office in Cincy {2022-08-11} **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 11, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504 "2022-08-11T18:56:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/1 "2022-08-11T18:56:35Z")
Story here: [https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/08/11/us/fbi-cincinnati-shooting-news](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/08/11/us/fbi-cincinnati-shooting-news) I’ll see if I can find some other sources. Apparently, the shooter is dressed in body armor. He tried to get past security at the FBI office, then exchanged gunfire with the agents there, then fled. Soon after, he was chased by the state police and is now pinned down in a corn field. I suppose this could be connected to the FBI raid of Mar-A-Lago, or it could be just a nutjob. I guess he’s a nutjob either way. ETA: This link doesn’t appear to be paywalled: [Armed man tries to breach Cincinnati FBI office, causing standoff](https://www.wlwt.com/article/fbi-office-cincinnati-armed-suspect-shot-fire-clinton-county/40871234) ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/2 "2022-08-11T18:58:49Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I suppose this could be connected to the FBI raid of Mar-A-Lago, or it could be just a nutjob. An FBI office? No way this is a coincidence. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/3 "2022-08-11T18:59:51Z")
Well, if it turns out this guy is a right-wing nutjob, rather than a regular nutjob, I’ll gladly ask the mods to move this out of MPSIMS into P&E or the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/4 "2022-08-11T19:01:42Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > he was chased by the state police and is now pinned down in a corn field. In [Clinton County!](https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/2022/08/11/i-71-closed-in-clinton-county-due-to-police-activity-osp-chase/65400231007/) ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/5 "2022-08-11T19:04:18Z")
Well, he’s obviously not a right-wing nutjob if he still lives in that county! Must be a left-wing nutjob – they’ve always hated the FBI. ---
**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/6 "2022-08-11T19:13:22Z")
He opened fire with a nail gun! Then brandished an AR 15. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/7 "2022-08-11T19:18:21Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Must be a left-wing nutjob The right-wing nutjobs are attacking the British Film Institute field office. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/8 "2022-08-11T19:18:30Z")
Attacking an FBI office sounds like marching into the opposing teams spawn point… ---
**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/9 "2022-08-11T19:20:10Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > he’s obviously not a right-wing nutjob Are you sure about that? From Skywatcher’s link: > [@](#): > > the subject’s vehicle, a white Ford Crown Victoria That type of car screams I subscribe to at least 7 conspiracy theories ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/10 "2022-08-11T19:23:49Z")
> [@xizor](#): > > That type of car screams I subscribe to at least 7 conspiracy theories Also: angry white guy of a certain age. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/11 "2022-08-11T19:27:02Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > …now pinned down in a corn field. Once they go into the cornfield, they don’t come out. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/12 "2022-08-11T19:27:38Z")
I wonder if one of our moderators was involved with getting the guy cornfielded. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/13 "2022-08-11T19:36:41Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Once they go into the cornfield, they don’t come out. [“He was a bad man! He was a very bad man!](https://youtu.be/jocI_R8lMpM) Stranger ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/14 "2022-08-11T19:40:37Z")
> [@mixdenny](#): > > He opened fire with a nail gun! Then brandished an AR 15. Is firing a nail gun at a federal employee a crime? I imagine showing him your AR 15 is. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/15 "2022-08-11T19:47:14Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > > [@mixdenny](#): > > > > He opened fire with a nail gun! Then brandished an AR 15. > > **Is firing a nail gun at a federal employee a crime?** I imagine showing him your AR 15 is. - If nothing else, it’s tacky. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/16 "2022-08-11T20:03:34Z")
Well, yes, but that doesn’t bother tacky people that carry firearms into Wal-Mart. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/17 "2022-08-11T20:06:39Z")
I feel like a mass shooting/nailed it meme would be in poor taste. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/18 "2022-08-11T20:09:11Z")
Only if you prefer the taste of hot lead to cold steel? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/19 "2022-08-11T20:44:21Z")
Not much more here from CNN: > **[An armed suspect who tried to enter the FBI's Cincinnati office is dead after...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/11/us/cincinnati-fbi-office-armed-subject/index.html)** > > A law enforcement standoff with a man who attempted to breach the FBI's field office in Cincinnati on Thursday has ended with the suspect dead, according to the Ohio State Highway Patrol. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/20 "2022-08-11T20:53:12Z")
Since we have limited info yet, going back to the nail gun assault question: > **[What Constitutes a Deadly Weapon?](https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/what-constitutes-a-deadly-weapon.html)** > > Various tools can be considered as a deadly weapon including knives and guns. View full legal information from LegalMatchs online law library today. Not a perfect source, and I’m at work so not going to do a deep dive, but > Objects other than the obvious guns and knives can also be wielded as deadly weapons. For example, broken bottles, dogs, power tools, gardening tools, blunt objects, and boats have been used in the crime of assault with a deadly weapon. So I’d say that most nail guns (.22, electrically or pneumatic powered) would probably fall under power tools, so I’d rate it as likely qualifying for assault with a deadly weapon. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504.md?page=2)