# Now in the pit: Someone tried to shoot up an FBI office in Cincy {2022-08-11} **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 11, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504 "2022-08-11T18:56:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/41 "2022-08-12T00:32:05Z")
The thing is, we must do the right things and not pause because of fear that “some people” may not like it, and act out. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/42 "2022-08-12T00:41:13Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Stochastic terrorism. “Lone Wolf” but one that effectively acts as an arm of a political party. During the late-nineteenth and early-twentieth centuries, the authorities did everything in their power to try to convict radicals who publicly advocated Anarchism of incitement or complicity with the criminal acts that assorted nutjobs committed. But ultimately the authorities were stymied by the fact that at least by Western standards of law direct culpability could not be shown. What the authorities mostly ended up doing was denaturalizing and deporting any such advocates as happened to be immigrants. In a few infamous cases such as the Haymarket Affair or the Sacco and Vanzetti trial, the accused were tied- often by the flimsiest of threads- to specific acts. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/43 "2022-08-12T01:04:44Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > The Cincinnati Enquirer article I linked to above has confirmed that the suspect is dead. Further reporting indicates that he was a participant in the January 6th riot. There’s only one way to close that coffin. 21 nail gun salute. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/44 "2022-08-12T01:08:33Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > The right-wing nutjobs are attacking the British Film Institute field office. Surely you mean the Institute of Banking and Finance? The British Film Institute gets the centrist nutjobs. > [@BobLibDem](#): > > They should have shot him with an upholstery gun, then he would have recovered. (removes hat, stands at attention) ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/45 "2022-08-12T07:45:04Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > This tragedy is a direct result of the right-wing media frenzy about their One Sane Man standing firm against the Evil Leftists. Part of that tragedy is that these nutjobs willing to go to war for their One Sane Man are under the delusion that their guy gives a shit about them when he doesn’t. He’s happy when they volunteer to be cannon fodder, but that’s it. It’s one-way loyalty and sacrifice. If only these folks could be persuaded to fight for something that actually matters and would benefit humanity. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/46 "2022-08-12T08:04:53Z")
Is their abject stupidity a blessing or a curse? On the one hand perhaps if they were smarter they wouldn’t do the awful things they do, on the other hand perhaps if they were smarter they’d do the awful things they do more competently. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/47 "2022-08-12T08:12:32Z")
So before the warrant on Trump? ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/48 "2022-08-12T08:24:59Z")
No, in response to the warrant: > **[Man who fired nail gun at FBI building called for violence on Truth Social in...](https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/man-fired-nail-gun-fbi-building-called-violence-days-mar-lago-search-rcna42749)** > > A man identified by two law enforcement sources as Ricky Shiffer also appeared to post Thursday about his failed effort to get into the FBI building. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/49 "2022-08-12T10:31:21Z")
I’m going to report this post to the moderators – I don’t want anyone getting warnings for being political in MPSIMS so I’m going to ask for a move to P&E or the Pit, with a preference for the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/50 "2022-08-12T11:32:24Z")
While I’m waiting for this to be moved, if you look at the NY Times website, the article about this loony is still on the main page, but way down on the page. Pretty fair and balanced – it’s news that a lunatic tried to attack the FBI, but not top news. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/51 "2022-08-12T11:48:21Z")
Has MTG said he was murdered yet? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/52 "2022-08-12T12:16:44Z")
At the request of the OP, and as this is no longer breaking news, I’ve moved the thread to the pit. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/53 "2022-08-12T12:26:15Z")
Maybe it was Milton. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/pHHZBmF8mk4/hqdefault.jpg "Office Space: Milton I believe you have my stapler") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHHZBmF8mk4) ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/54 "2022-08-12T12:32:49Z")
Thanks! I’m going on the assumption that this nutjob really was a RWNJ and was at the treasonous January 6th riots. First, I’d like to say fuck this murderous, seditious, treasonous asshole. What a moron – I’m going to go and take on an FBI office by myself? Obviously steeped in the Trump cult and the right-wing media bubble. Next I’d like to say fuck the right-wing media bubble. They are essentially egging on their cultists with lies and propaganda, and trying to foment an actual civil war, so they can get more viewers and clicks. We know that they know better, because they were frantically texting Trumps lackeys on January 6th, trying to get Trump to call off the treasonous attack on the Capitol. They know better, and yet they still egg on their cultists, and call for violence against the FBI and the government in general. Fucker Carlson and Sean Hannity could get on the air right now and stop this bullshit, but they continue to ride the tiger to try and fatten their wallets. Finally, I’d like to say fuck Trump. Why people like the subject of this thread would lay down their lives for such an obvious conman, such a whiny baby (“boohoo, everyone is so unfair to me, no one has had it harder than me”) is completely beyond me. That cult-like artwork of a manly Trump leading some patriotic procession is so bizarre. Trump doesn’t give a shit about this dead asshole, or any of his followers. If he hired them to do some contract work, he would fuck them over when it came time to pay. And they still follow him. Trump is the weirdest actual cult leader I can imagine. He doesn’t even pretend to care about his cultists. Thanks again for moving this. ---
**Author:** ![Bonum\_Legatum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bonum_legatum/32/6183_2.png) [@Bonum\_Legatum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bonum_Legatum)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/55 "2022-08-12T13:10:02Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > That cult-like artwork of a manly Trump leading some patriotic procession is so bizarre. I now have a mental image of a painting done on black velvet - sold from a truck parked at a gas station. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/56 "2022-08-12T13:10:21Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Trump is the weirdest actual cult leader I can imagine. He doesn’t even pretend to care about his cultists. They dont care that he doesent care about them. He gives them something it appears no one else can: he validates their deep feelings of hatred, bigotry, and grievance. “Owning the libs” is the crack cocaine that keeps them coming back for more. And all this is amplified by the right wing media bubble. I recall discussion about N Korea if it somehow suddendly fell and what would the world do with all the brainwashed N Koreans, to help them adjust to reality. We have a similar problem right here at home. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/57 "2022-08-12T13:10:34Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Why people like the subject of this thread would lay down their lives for such an obvious conman, such a whiny baby (“boohoo, everyone is so unfair to me, no one has had it harder than me”) is completely beyond me. Because they identify with him. Everything that has gone wrong in their lives has been the fault of someone else, they’ve had it hard and unfair, and so gravitate towards like minded individuals. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/58 "2022-08-12T15:33:47Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I’m going on the assumption that this nutjob really was a RWNJ and was at the treasonous January 6th riots. I recently heard on NBC News Radio that such a connection is being investigated. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/59 "2022-08-12T17:59:43Z")
I wonder if the corn was harvested yet? I know corn fields, I can’t imagine chasing any armed person into one. Worse than a jungle IMHO. I really wonder how this played out. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504/60 "2022-08-12T18:15:28Z")
First hearing about this my main question was why was he trying to shoot the FBI agents with a nail gun if he had an AR-15? However reading his Truth Social post might explain this “Well, I thought I had a way through bullet proof glass, and I didn’t…" [(Yahoo news link for above quote)](https://www.yahoo.com/video/man-fired-nail-gun-fbi-234456194.html) I guess the thought that the glass was only bullet proof and not nail proof. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-in-the-pit-someone-tried-to-shoot-up-an-fbi-office-in-cincy-2022-08-11/969504.md?page=4)