# Now, John Conyers **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 27, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887 "2017-11-27T19:39:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/1 "2017-11-27T19:39:32Z")
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/conyers-steps-aside-from-top-spot-on-house-judiciary-committee/ar-BBFHYqU?OCID=ansmsnnews11](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/conyers-steps-aside-from-top-spot-on-house-judiciary-committee/ar-BBFHYqU?OCID=ansmsnnews11) I’m guessing this doesn’t get the traction of the Franken story. Conyers wasn’t on SNL. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/2 "2017-11-27T19:43:41Z")
What do you mean? He’s already stepped down from his senior position on the Judiciary Committee. It’s been a regular feature in the news for some days now, so it has already gotten “traction”. There will be an investigation by the ethics committee, which it seems is the course Franken’s issue is taking. The Franken story had the “advantage” of a photograph, and if there was one here, I’m sure we’d have all seen it by now, too. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/3 "2017-11-27T19:58:04Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > It’s been a regular feature in the news for some days now, so it has already gotten “traction”. Huh. I first heard it today, and very briefly. Guess I’m not paying attention. Actually, I know I’m not paying attention. On purpose. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/4 "2017-11-27T20:00:46Z")
It’s definitely big news in Michigan. [The left-leaning Detroit Free Press Editorial Board called on him to resign last week.](http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/editorials/2017/11/21/editorial-u-s-rep-john-conyers-must-resign/885207001/) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/5 "2017-11-28T20:52:45Z")
[His former deputy CoS has come forward saying he was inappropriate and harassing toward her on multiple occasions.](https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/28/john-conyers-new-accuser-sexual-harassment-261524?lo=ap_f1) A Detroit reporter said she told him off-the-record about it around the time it happened, so there’s corroboration. Dude needs to go away, like, yesterday. With this hanging over his head at 88-years-old, he’s not doing his party, his district, his state, or anyone else any good by sticking around. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/6 "2017-11-29T16:42:17Z")
these ancient guys are like somebody who needs to be taken out by Martin Sheen by going up river. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/7 "2017-11-29T17:17:59Z")
Yeah, with him I’m tempted to say: OK, you did grow up in a different time, and at your age maybe it’s not worth prosecuting. Just get out of the way and let someone younger folks take over. Isn’t the guy, like, 1,000 years old or something? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/8 "2017-11-30T18:31:06Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > these ancient guys are like somebody who needs to be taken out by Martin Sheen by going up river. The Horror. _The Horror!_ ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/9 "2017-11-30T18:54:44Z")
Latest I’ve heard on it was that Nancy Pelosi told him he needs to step down, but that his lawyer has said he won’t step down. I’m not sure if he ultimately will or not I also read a report that he was hospitalized for stress. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/10 "2017-11-30T18:58:47Z")
“Stress” is an excellent way of stepping down while still denying the charges of harassment. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/11 "2017-11-30T19:02:01Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > “Stress” is an excellent way of stepping down while still denying the charges of harassment. It struck me as an excellent way of trying to garner sympathy and delay any decision on resignation until the storm blows over. ETA: perhaps “excellent” is the wrong word. I think I meant something more like “transparent” ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/12 "2017-11-30T19:08:24Z")
He’s 88, and apparently suffering from level of mental deficiency (there are reports of him wandering around in public in pajamas). There have been several settlements due to sexual misconduct on his part. I’d say there are many reasons for him to step down at this point. As an aside, “stress” may also be a code for a more serious condition, given other reports. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/13 "2017-11-30T19:27:03Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > … I’d say there are many reasons for him to step down at this point. … There definitely ARE, but he doesn’t seem to be acknowledging them yet: [Conyers ‘sure as hell’ won’t be pressured by Pelosi to resign, attorney vows](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/30/pelosi-calls-for-conyers-to-resign-amid-sexual-misconduct-allegations.html) That doesn’t sound like a message from a man preparing himself to humbly ride off into the sunset ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/14 "2017-11-30T20:12:33Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > As an aside, “stress” may also be a code for a more serious condition, given other reports. I suspect “stress” is a synonym for the six-pack flu. Rather like a rock musician being hospitalized for “exhaustion”. Not that groupies can’t be stressful for either musicians, or politicians. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/15 "2017-11-30T23:28:42Z")
Pelosi went from “he’s an icon” to GTFO in just a few days. not too surprising I guess ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/16 "2017-11-30T23:37:41Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Pelosi went from “he’s an icon” to GTFO in just a few days. not too surprising I guess “He’s an icon” is the part that surprised me. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/17 "2017-12-05T16:00:02Z")
Conyers has retired. > **[Rep. John Conyers announces retirement, endorses son to run for seat](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rep-john-conyers-son-john-conyers-iii-to-run-for-congress-seat/)** > > The move comes amid growing pressure for the Michigan representative to step down amid allegations of sexual misconduct ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/18 "2017-12-05T16:15:06Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Conyers has retired. > > [John Conyers' son, John Conyers III, to run for Michigan Congressional seat - CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rep-john-conyers-son-john-conyers-iii-to-run-for-congress-seat/) And he’s so young!! ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/19 "2017-12-05T17:12:34Z")
Funny how Al Franken, Donald T\*\*\*p, and Roy Moore haven’t faced any consequences for their behavior but Conyers has. Wonder why that is… what is it about Conyers that makes him different than the others? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/20 "2017-12-05T17:19:21Z")
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