# Now, John Conyers **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 27, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887 "2017-11-27T19:39:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/21 "2017-12-05T17:35:06Z")
Also, the charges against were for things he did while he was a member of Congress. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/22 "2017-12-05T17:59:56Z")
Older than a Dinosaur? There’s nothing really different he could have stayed on if he wanted to, and put his party in an uncomfortable position like Al Franken is doing, he just chose the path of least resistance. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/23 "2017-12-05T18:06:18Z")
I think there is more than a bit of race in the equation. Some people feel much more threatened by black sexual misbehavior than by whites doing the same thing. And I dare say, if Conyers had been preying on white teens 40 years ago, he wouldn’t have a chance of being elected Senator from Alabama. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/24 "2017-12-05T18:11:01Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Funny how Al Franken, Donald T\*\*\*p, and Roy Moore haven’t faced any consequences for their behavior but Conyers has. Wonder why that is… what is it about Conyers that makes him different than the others? Trump and Moore are “outsider” candidates who don’t care what anyone thinks, and thus can’t be forced out. Franken’s transgressions were much much more mild than Conyers’. But no doubt many people are thinking along the same lines as you are. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/25 "2017-12-05T21:21:08Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I think there is more than a bit of race in the equation. Some people feel much more threatened by black sexual misbehavior than by whites doing the same thing. And I dare say, if Conyers had been preying on white teens 40 years ago, he wouldn’t have a chance of being elected Senator from Alabama. How do you reach this conclusion? Donald Trump has faced no consequences because a) he denies that the claimed actions happened, and b) the only way to force him out of office is by impeachment followed by removal by the Senate. Stay tuned on that. Al Franken hasn’t been forced out of his position because his alleged misconduct is much milder than that of Rep. Conyers, and it occurred before he was in office. Roy Moore hasn’t faced any consequences (yet) because he’s not in office (yet). Further, like Trump, he denies the allegations took place, and unlike Conyers, he hasn’t had to settle multiple suits for things like improper discharge, which tend to lend a credence to the claims. It’s notable that there are members of Congress in the Republican Party who have asserted that, if Moore is elected, the Senate should refuse to seat him (stay tuned). The fact that Conyers happens to have dark skin doesn’t appear to have anything to do with this. And indeed, he was pressured out of his position _mostly by the members of the Congressional Black Caucus_. But it’s pretty standard operating procedure for some “liberal” people to raise allegations of racism at the drop of a hat. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/26 "2017-12-05T21:48:21Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I think there is more than a bit of race in the equation. Some people feel much more threatened by black sexual misbehavior than by whites doing the same thing. And I dare say, if Conyers had been preying on white teens 40 years ago, he wouldn’t have a chance of being elected Senator from Alabama. If he was going after white teens 40 years ago, he would be 6 feet under . ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/27 "2017-12-05T22:00:06Z")
I guess it could be that 40 is the new 60, but isn’t it supposed to be the other way around? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/28 "2017-12-08T14:15:34Z")
Conyers endorsed his eldest son to replace him. The son has not decided whether or not to run. John Conyers III is a hedge fund manager - I wonder how that will play in the Democratic “bankers are evil/Washington is run by insiders” narrative. He was also arrested, but not charged or convicted, in a domestic violence incident when his drunk, stoned girlfriend allegedly attacked him with a knife when he accused her of cheating on him, and the girlfriend got cut on the arm. More ‘he said she said’ as is usual in cases like this, and the restraining order against both of them expires next March. Not that it matters all that much - it is a pretty safe Democratic seat no matter who runs. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/29 "2017-12-08T14:20:30Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Conyers endorsed his eldest son to replace him. The son has not decided whether or not to run. > > John Conyers III is a hedge fund manager - I wonder how that will play in the Democratic “bankers are evil/Washington is run by insiders” narrative. He was also arrested, but not charged or convicted, in a domestic violence incident when his drunk, stoned girlfriend allegedly attacked him with a knife when he accused her of cheating on him, and the girlfriend got cut on the arm. More ‘he said she said’ as is usual in cases like this, and the restraining order against both of them expires next March. > > Not that it matters all that much - it is a pretty safe Democratic seat no matter who runs. > > Regards, > Shodan I’m hoping he does not run. As a general rule, when a man abuser/harasser is outed and booted, it’s my preference that a woman replace them – at least until we have anything close to gender parity in government. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/30 "2017-12-08T14:54:11Z")
Mark Dayton, the governor of Minnesnowta, is talking about replacing Franken with the lieutenant governor of the state, who is a woman. So maybe you will get your wish. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/31 "2017-12-08T23:13:20Z")
The special election for Conyers is [delayed until November 2018](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/12/08/special-election-to-replace-rep-john-conyers-jr-set-for-november-2018/?utm_term=.af0fd3ec8eed). Because, reasons. Well, because the Republicans want the Democrats to have one fewer vote. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887/32 "2017-12-08T23:21:42Z")
Could a Congressperson announce their intent to resign upon election of a replacement as a preference to letting the office go vacant for months? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-john-conyers/802887.md?page=1)