# Now listen up, all you sons of bitches. It's Lake America now **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 27, 2026, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608 "2026-08-27T18:46:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/181 "2026-08-30T18:31:08Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Huh. 25 years ago a friend came back from a Boy Scout thing there and told me that nobody calls it that, it’s Denali, and the people who live near it care a lot about that. I was born in Juneau and grew up in Anchorage. It was always called Mt. McKinley during that time by everyone who was not an Alaska Native. When I moved back there in 1998, a lot of people were calling it Denali (note the absence of “mount”) and I easily slipped into that descriptive as a better name for it. Then Obama came along and officially changed it. I would suspect that somewhere in the next four-year regime, it will be changed back again whenever the next president finally unfucks all the seriously bad things the orange turd has done. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/182 "2026-08-30T18:54:46Z")
> [@DPRK](#): > > You mean it is Ontario on Google Maps? Apple maps? Ontario in English and in Hebrew on both Google and Apple Maps. > [@DPRK](#): > > Interestingly, Israel is not a member of the International Hydrographic Organization. Probably some old boycott. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/183 "2026-08-30T19:22:46Z")
Hey, try hustling some Norwegians at darts and let us know how it goes! 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/184 "2026-08-30T21:28:54Z")
Breaking News [![](https://scontent.fcps4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.99422-6/782599185_1728065431807046_1717646145163595673_n.png?stp=dst-jpg_tt6&cstp=mx480x475&ctp=s480x475&_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=skaVaLcZjA0Q7kNvwEccI2W&_nc_oc=AdqDYh3vHAt2UqXu3D2xgpLxUmRhsqhhqyyoRCQsCpahWxHh-Q1lT6olQEWQWwLx9M8Ut0Oz1IXFWV_HKQnltZzT&_nc_zt=14&_nc_ht=scontent.fcps4-1.fna&_nc_gid=Ij4kEfMjJOw9AcHRvklo8g&_nc_ss=7b2a8&oh=00_AQKki18bZmRSR5cw2mXbpqfzxlz_SrGbz1KcM2Ct0Hrlig&oe=6A9A6B69) ](https://scontent.fcps4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.99422-6/782599185_1728065431807046_1717646145163595673_n.png?stp=dst-jpg_tt6&cstp=mx480x475&ctp=s480x475&_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=skaVaLcZjA0Q7kNvwEccI2W&_nc_oc=AdqDYh3vHAt2UqXu3D2xgpLxUmRhsqhhqyyoRCQsCpahWxHh-Q1lT6olQEWQWwLx9M8Ut0Oz1IXFWV_HKQnltZzT&_nc_zt=14&_nc_ht=scontent.fcps4-1.fna&_nc_gid=Ij4kEfMjJOw9AcHRvklo8g&_nc_ss=7b2a8&oh=00_AQKki18bZmRSR5cw2mXbpqfzxlz_SrGbz1KcM2Ct0Hrlig&oe=6A9A6B69) ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/185 "2026-08-30T21:31:19Z")
Bad link? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/186 "2026-08-30T21:46:01Z")
Sorry. It’s working for me. It’s a picture that says > Breaking News Live > > Trump Issues Executive Order > To Rename Melania “Natalie” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/187 "2026-08-30T22:03:39Z")
I heard that Trump is renaming his penis after Mitch McConnell, because he hasn’t seen it in a long time, it doesn’t work anymore, and it’s done some disgusting things. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/188 "2026-08-30T22:41:06Z")
**[Due to various technical screwups](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/google-updates-maps-lake-ontario-9.7325922)** apparently by Google’s mapping service, a number of Canadian sites, including some Canadian government sites, are now displaying the idiotic “Lake America” name. Google says it wasn’t intentional and is working to fix the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/189 "2026-08-30T23:01:36Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Google says it wasn’t intentional and is working to fix the problem. How do you _unintentionally_ change the name of a lake to something Trump wanted? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/190 "2026-08-30T23:10:22Z")
Canadian sites were all supposed to see “Lake Ontario”. The mistake was that the Orange Turd’s idiotic name slipped through some of the IP filters. What makes this especially galling is that Lake Ontario spans both countries, with Canada owning the larger portion of it by over 1000 km2, and in any case Great Lakes policy is supposed to be governed by the Great Lakes International Joint Commission, established by the Boundary Waters Treaty of 1909. So the Orange Turd is demonstrating his usual wild disregard for international sensitivities, tradition, and law. The name “Lake Ontario” dates back over 400 years. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/191 "2026-08-30T23:44:42Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I heard that Trump is renaming his penis after Mitch McConnell, because he hasn’t seen it in a long time, it doesn’t work anymore, and it’s done some disgusting things. Totally stealing this. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/192 "2026-08-31T01:07:08Z")
Uh, how can any government web sites or other infrastructure be using Google anything? Is that not illegal? May as well install some Huawei routers while they are at it. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/193 "2026-08-31T01:18:39Z")
I honestly have no idea. What I read was that the LCBO, the Ontario government-run liquor store system, as well as the government-operated train and bus transit maps, Hydro One, and even the Government of Canada Housing and Infrastructure Project map were all at one point showing the "Lake America " label. There are screen shots at my previous link. If I simply go to Google Maps from my location, I see “Lake Ontario”. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/194 "2026-08-31T01:36:47Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > in any case Great Lakes policy is supposed to be governed by the Great Lakes International Joint Commission, established by the Boundary Waters Treaty of 1909. So the Orange Turd is demonstrating his usual wild disregard for international sensitivities, tradition, and law. This was discussed briefly in another thread, but as far as I can tell that Joint Commission has absolutely nothing to do with overseeing naming rights. Which makes sense, because why would it normally even be a question? By the time it was set up everyone had been calling it Lake Ontario for hundreds of years. It was a settled fact until a buffoon stepped in. However legally Trump seems to be entirely in the clear. Naming and re-naming geographic features does seem to be a power held by the executive in the United States. It is of course only binding on the US government, but I imagine in a case like this Google has a set policy of following whatever naming scheme a government establishes in any given jurisdiction. Which is perfectly defensible as a policy, if somewhat craven politically in this instance. So you are partly right - Trump is exercising wild disregard for tradition and international sensitivities. But probably not the law in this particular instance, where unfortunately he seems to have full authority to act as he did. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/195 "2026-08-31T01:41:10Z")
And here I thought changing names for purposes of affirming a new identity was woke. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/196 "2026-08-31T01:54:16Z")
Shouldn’t the spelling be “Lake Amerika”?!? ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/197 "2026-08-31T02:22:50Z")
Lake Superior? Now…Lake Obama Is Superior. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/198 "2026-08-31T02:46:34Z")
No, it’s »Amerikasee«. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/199 "2026-08-31T03:07:33Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > And here I thought changing names for purposes of affirming a new identity was woke. I mean, kids have changed their names to piss off other people forever, too. ---
**Author:** ![Wallaby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/dc4da7/32.png) [@Wallaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallaby)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/200 "2026-08-31T08:48:38Z")
Here in Oz, it still comes up as ‘Ontario’ on Googlemaps. Although the Gulf shows up as ‘Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)’.. I mean, seriously, this is kindergarten-level shit. I expect the next tariff idiocy will be proclaimed officially with - ‘and No Returns’! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608.md?page=11)