# Now listen up, all you sons of bitches. It's Lake America now **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 27, 2026, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608 "2026-08-27T18:46:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/221 "2026-08-31T22:42:47Z")
At what point do we stop pretending that this long stream of horrifying bullshit just doesn’t matter and that it will just magically disappear in a couple of weeks with no real long term consequences? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/222 "2026-08-31T22:58:02Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > There’s certainly more consequential damaging stuff being done by this criminal regime, but this ignorant change by the Orange Troll really does matter to many, especially people who have long lived in close proximity to the Great Lakes, especially on the shores of Lake Ontario. I know this isn’t much comfort, but people in the U.S. have mostly ignored the name change, and I encourage you to do the same to the extent possible. As _Slate_ said today, it’s treated as a sideshow down here. > His Oval Office pronouncement that the smallest of the Great Lakes in surface area has a new name has mostly been met with shrugs and eyerolls by an American public increasingly unimpressed by Trump’s attempts to be shocking. His tactics lose their effectiveness by their repeated use. Trump’s distractions were once effective because they could not be ignored. But if Trump makes the same outrageous statement a dozen times, it loses its effectiveness. It’s no longer novel. It’s repetitive and boring. > > Of course, while Trump’s gambit is a sideshow in the United States, it is headline news in Canada. It is the story of the day for the CBC and the Globe and Mail. But then again, foreigners have less familiarity with Trump, often still assuming the president of the United States’ statements represent meaningful policy of the United States—and not just “the president is saying some stuff.” I’m not saying take **Beck’s** advice to just ignore whatever Trump does. That’s a privilege of people who aren’t personally affected by the horrible actions he’s taking. Instead, focus on what does matter. The tariffs are going to have devastating effects, especially on Canada and the U.S. border states. Focus on that, not some idiotic name change that no one will pay attention to. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/223 "2026-08-31T23:05:03Z")
> [@Keith1](#): > > > [@wolfpup](#): > > > > Ford has been one of the fiercest critics of Trump during this second Trump regime, particularly spurred on by the tariff nonsense. > > . . . all while dismantling healthcare, education, the environment . . .things that actually matter. Same things Trump is destroying. Wanna trade? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/224 "2026-08-31T23:31:06Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > > [@Keith1](#): > > > > > [@wolfpup](#): > > > > > > Ford has been one of the fiercest critics of Trump during this second Trump regime, particularly spurred on by the tariff nonsense. > > > > . . . all while dismantling healthcare, education, the environment . . .things that actually matter. Same things Trump is destroying. > > Wanna trade?   Yeah, nice job trying to compare Doug Ford to Trump. 🙄 (Reply addressed to @keith1) “Dismantling health care”? I still have the same excellent no-cost, no-copay health care I’ve always had. I still have the provincial seniors drug plan. “Dismantling education”? Two new public elementary schools were just built in this neighbourhood, one the usual non-denominational, the other Catholic. Both funded by property taxes. AFAICT, kids are still being educated. “Dismantling the environment”? I’m an environmentalist, but I consider it to Ford’s credit that he cancelled the biannual emission testing requirements that were such a total rip-off scam that my independent mechanic refused to have anything to do with them. The reasoning was that they were irrelevant for the vast majority of new cars on the road. Ford also cancelled all annual license renewal fees for non-commercial vehicles which were another unnecessary cash grab. This was groundbreaking as almost all other provinces and states still have annual license fees. That said, Ford has arguably weakened conservation laws and defied some climate measures that are a federal responsibility anyway. So, no, Doug Ford is no shining examplar of an environmentalist, but he sure as hell is no Donald Trump. Trump and his minions are unprincipled criminals who seek only to enrich themselves, screw everyone else, and particularly piss off progressives. Doug Ford tends to look after the common everyday citizen, but with conservative principles in mind. If you think the two are in any way the same you’re fucking insane. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/225 "2026-08-31T23:33:04Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > At what point do we stop pretending that this long stream of horrifying bullshit just doesn’t matter and that it will just magically disappear in a couple of weeks with no real long term consequences? Pretty sure I said nothing of the sort, and even clarified my remarks. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/226 "2026-08-31T23:42:42Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > > [@wolfpup](#): > > > > There’s certainly more consequential damaging stuff being done by this criminal regime, but this ignorant change by the Orange Troll really does matter to many, especially people who have long lived in close proximity to the Great Lakes, especially on the shores of Lake Ontario. > > I know this isn’t much comfort, but people in the U.S. have mostly ignored the name change, and I encourage you to do the same to the extent possible. As _Slate_ said today, it’s treated as a sideshow down here. I’m pretty sure NY State has said the executive order doesn’t affect them. It certainly doesn’t affect the people who live next to lake Ontario. They will continue to call it lake Ontario. They will see a few annoying signs on federal highways (my tax dollars at work!) and will ignore the new name on Google maps. 🤷‍♀️ Now the tariffs… That’s going to really hurt a lot of people on both sides of the border. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/227 "2026-08-31T23:48:21Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > They will see a few annoying signs on federal highways There are no federal highways; they’re all owned by the states. So you’re not even going to see “Lake America” signs on the highways. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/228 "2026-09-01T00:06:50Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > one of the comments was, “it pisses off all the right people, so i like it”. There are people like that out there. They _like_ Trump, they _still_ like Trump. He does this stuff for them, and the more normal people react, the happier they are. The only reaction that most people I know have is: “Oh that’s sad. I am sorry for those poor Americans that have to deal with this.” Really, it’s pity more than anything. It’s not pissing off anyone I know. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/229 "2026-09-01T00:08:41Z")
> **[MapQuest's app surges to No. 1 in Navigation after refusing to rename Lake...](https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/31/mapquests-app-surges-to-no-1-in-navigation-after-refusing-to-rename-lake-ontario/)** > > MapQuest is getting an unexpected boost from its decision to defy President Trump’s renaming of Lake Ontario. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/230 "2026-09-01T00:12:16Z")
In Canada property taxes fund Catholic schools? Man, that’s rough. We might have something like that, possibly in Texas or something. But they’re fucked up in Texas. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/231 "2026-09-01T00:24:13Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > In Canada property taxes fund Catholic schools? Man, that’s rough. Property owners get to choose whether they want their portion of school taxes to support traditional public schools or Catholic schools. It’s not both. In Ontario, the number of Catholic schools is only about half of the regular secular ones. There’s a long constitutional history behind the two disparate public school systems. Personally I dislike the religiosity of the Catholic bullshit, but there it is. Parents have no obligation to either fund or send their children to Catholic schools. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/232 "2026-09-01T00:33:36Z")
To me the weird part is the right to choose not to fund public schools. In my view, anyone can choose to support any school, in addition to their obligatory support of public schools. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/233 "2026-09-01T00:52:05Z")
I just downloaded Mapquest’s app. Reading the recent reviews is worth the time spent in the App Store. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/234 "2026-09-01T00:57:34Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Fortunately for the large Canadian population in the “Golden Horseshoe” from St. Catharines through Hamilton, Toronto, Oshawa, and dozens of other lakeshore communities, it will still and always be “Lake Ontario”. But it must be at least somewhat disruptive and distressing for those who have made their homes on the shores of the American side. Most of whom will also keep right on calling it Lake Ontario. So will New York State. Trump can only make the federal government change it; not the states or municipalities, let alone private businesses and individuals. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/235 "2026-09-01T01:00:34Z")
Unless of course the governors of those states align with Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/236 "2026-09-01T01:04:06Z")
Only Trump’s home state borders the lake and they ain’t, in any way, aligned with Trump. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/237 "2026-09-01T01:07:18Z")
And have already announced they’re not changing the name. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/238 "2026-09-01T02:14:09Z")
Well, I’m going to do my part by driving to Vancouver tomorrow and pump some money into the local economy! ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/239 "2026-09-01T02:19:03Z")
Really? Growing up in northeastern Ohio, near enough that our weather was strongly influenced by Lake Erie, I learned HOMES early on. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/240 "2026-09-01T02:25:04Z")
I just went to the mapquest webpage. I hope the app is better than this, because man, is that webpage fucked up. Just for an example, near me is apparently the Kicking Horse Mountain Resort, which is actually located about 800 km away. But no, it’s in a residential neighborhood. A block from my house appears to be a Sushi restaurant that is actually located across town a good 20 km away. Just down the street is an RV park, that is actually located about 700 km north. This is all interspersed with a few actually accurate places, along with some businesses that closed a decade ago. And one that is in the right spot, but just opened two months ago. It’s odd. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608.md?page=13)