# Now listen up, all you sons of bitches. It's Lake America now

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**Created:** [August 27, 2026, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608 "2026-08-27T18:46:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
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Lake America 1, Lake America A, Lake America prime, Best Lake America, and Lake “it’s America dammit”.

> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> [https://photos.app.goo.gl/FMD4ge9CpK6redwNA](https://photos.app.goo.gl/FMD4ge9CpK6redwNA)

Thanks!

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/22 "2026-08-27T20:57:48Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> Lake America 1, Lake America A, Lake America prime, Best Lake America, and Lake “it’s America dammit”.

Ah hell, let’s just make it all one big Straight of America

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
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Perhaps I’m an outlier, but I’m a native Michigander and didn’t hear about HOMES until late in life. But I was a bit of a map geek (in addition to math and science geek) so I never had the need for a mnemonic device.

Nobody but nobody is going to pay attention to this bullshit. Except maybe if Google wants federal contracts for whatever they’ll put it on Google maps.

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**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/24 "2026-08-27T21:03:04Z")

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Nobody from Canada, Michigan or the New England states is going to go along with this. Fuck this guy. It’s Lake Ontario, now and always.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
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But that wouldn’t stick it to Canada like changing the name of a lake that’s _obviously_ named for the province. /s

The obvious thing to do is to rename Ontario to America.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/26 "2026-08-27T21:06:44Z")

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The lake isn’t named for the province. The province is named for the lake.

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**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/27 "2026-08-27T21:11:12Z")

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I posted this in the Clusterfuck thread but it may be better here. Also I can’t delete the other post.

We could make this a game. Which executive order renaming things do you think Trump will sign next?

1. Changing Lake Superior to Lake Trump
2. Changing Mt. Ranier to Mt. Trump
3. Changing the White House to the Trump House
4. Changing Washington D.C. to Trump D.C.
5. Changing Florida to Trumpland
6. Changing the United States of America to the United States of Trump

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/28 "2026-08-27T21:23:41Z")

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As a Michigander I don’t remember being taught HOMES but it sounds plausible. I’m not even confident I could label them correctly. I’m not really a geography person. I’m still trying to figure out where I live.

I’m not about to change any of their names though. I wish people would figure out that you don’t have to go along with this administration’s dumb shit. If most people just said “no” we’d be a lot better off.

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/29 "2026-08-27T21:24:17Z")

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Hate America? Well, yes, at this point I think I do. Happily, this will all go away in two years and that fucker will be dead shortly thereafter, if not sooner.

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/30 "2026-08-27T21:25:00Z")

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Look, I can’t afford to get worked up at every idiotic thing that man does. Helps nothing. Does nothing, except make my BP go up. This is not good for me.

Helps no one.

Turn off the noise people, you’ll be lots happier.

He’s gonna flap his gums til he dies. I refuse to be bothered by it.

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> The lake isn’t named for the province. The province is named for the lake.

And the lake was named for the Iroquoian word _oniatarí:io_, meaning “lake of shining waters.”

Other name origins:

- Huron: named after the Huron First Nations inhabiting the region
- Michigan: from the Ojibwe word _mishigami_, which means “large water” or “large lake.”
- Erie: from the Iroquoian word _erielhonan_, meaning “long tail.”
- Superior: from French explorers who called it “le lac supérieur,” meaning “upper lake.”

It’s just foreign bullshit top to bottom.

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> **[MapQuest (@mapquest.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/mapquest.com/post/3mu3hbrw3es2i)**
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> We’re not changing it.

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Growing up in Michigan, you learn the mnemonic HOMES, for Huron, Ontario, Michigan, Erie, and Superior.
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> How fitting that the new mnemonic is SHAME.

Bra-VOH!!

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/34 "2026-08-27T21:56:17Z")

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He could name it for himself: Lake Diapercaca

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> [@Toxgoddess](#):
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> _Which executive order renaming things do you think Trump will sign next?_

I expect he’ll next be renaming Earth. Perhaps he’ll rename it “Natalie.”

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> It’s just foreign bullshit top to bottom.

Except for the inconvenient facts that Ojibwe (a.k.a. Chippewa) and Iroquois lived in what is now the US. Or to put it another way, they’re American languages.

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Turn off the noise people, you’ll be lots happier.
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> He’s gonna flap his gums til he dies. I refuse to be bothered by it.

50% tariffs on my country, along with demands that we deindustrialise, hand over foreign trade sovereignty, essentially become a vassal state to Trump’s USA. He’s going to send my country into a recession. Its happening right now. Jobs are being lost.

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> Except for the inconvenient facts that Ojibwe (a.k.a. Chippewa) and Iroquois lived in what is now the US. Or to put it another way, they’re American languages.

I mean, if you want to deal with facts, “America” is from the Italian language. But facts aren’t really a priority.

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Happily, this will all go away in two years

It’s not going away in two years. The entire Trump administration has fucked up international relations for generations. You can’t erase the damage by changing a few names back.

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Yeah. The USA used to be the defacto leader of the Western nations. I doubt we’ll ever regain that status. Once upon a time, the UK was top dog. Once upon a time Austria (the heart of the holy Roman empire) was the center of Europe, and mattered. Nations rise and nations fall. We’ve fallen. I expect China will end up on top, but who knows.

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