# Now listen up, all you sons of bitches. It's Lake America now

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**Created:** [August 27, 2026, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608 "2026-08-27T18:46:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/41 "2026-08-27T22:25:03Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Growing up in Michigan, you learn the mnemonic HOMES, for Huron, Ontario, Michigan, Erie, and Superior.
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> How fitting that the new mnemonic is SHAME.

I posted [this](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8282) in the cluster coninues thread about 20 hours ago.

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> The felon in the oval didn’t think this one out very far. Remember the mnemonic _HOMES_? That’s to help one remember the names of the Great Lakes (Huron, Ontario, Michigan, Erie, Superior). The FitO changing the name of Lake Ontario to Lake America gives us…Let’s see…
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> **S** uperior  
> **H** uron  
> **A** merica  
> **M** ichigan  
> **E** rie
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> Yep, _ **SHAME** _. How fitting!

I learned the _HOMES_ mnemonic in elementary school in Virginia.

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I saw a response on Facebook to this debacle. A user said he was renaming his toilet bowl to “Lake Trump”. I heartily endorse that idea and will do the same.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
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Hah, I was under no illusion that I was the first to think of that. It ain’t exactly a stretch.

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_joke already made_ need glasses

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/45 "2026-08-27T22:46:20Z")

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Megalomaniacs gotta megalomanic

But why for do he pick on that puddle previously called Ontario?  
Why didn’t he decree that Lake Superior should hence be Lake America?  
Bigly lake. Huuuge lake. Trumpian name.  
Appropriate a much bigger slice of aquatic real estate.  
Cause Canawegians even more indignation.  
Help more with trade negotiations.

It just makes more sense.

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Tip o’ the hat to **Buck\_Godot**

**Stupid Man Hates Every American**

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/47 "2026-08-27T22:59:14Z")

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> [@Toxgoddess](#):
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> I posted this in the Clusterfuck thread but it may be better here. Also I can’t delete the other post.
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> We could make this a game. Which executive order renaming things do you think Trump will sign next?
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> 1. Changing Lake Superior to Lake Trump
> 2. Changing Mt. Ranier to Mt. Trump
> 3. Changing the White House to the Trump House
> 4. Changing Washington D.C. to Trump D.C.
> 5. Changing Florida to Trumpland
> 6. Changing the United States of America to the United States of Trump

It’s pretty much this.

FTR, I don’t believe the name will stick. Also, as a former sailboat owner, I cruised the Great Lakes and the names mean a lot to me. There is no way the Orange Asshole has the power to change the name of a lake that crosses international boundaries. But when has that ever stopped him before from taking illegal actions? And what does this ridiculous “executive order” even mean, outside of the US?

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/48 "2026-08-27T23:09:31Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> This is so stupid.

Agree, since roughly half of it belongs to Canada.

The name would be more appropriate for Lake Michigan, since 100% of it lies within the U.S.

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/49 "2026-08-27T23:11:11Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> It’s not going away in two years. The entire Trump administration has fucked up international relations for generations. You can’t erase the damage by changing a few names back.

Oh, I agree. I was referring to the petty name-changing nonsense.

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That’s Michigan’s Lake, dammit. (Yes, I know we have to share.)

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It doesn’t mean anything outside the US, but it might mean something to people who publish maps in the US.

I mean, i can call the lake i caught frogs in as a kid, “frog lake”, whatever name you call it, or maps call it. He can try to get US mapmakers to change what they write. I’m curious if they’ll submit to this. Personally, I’m gonna refer to lake Ontario, so people know what i mean.

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Kinda like how in Chicago everyone calls The Willis Tower Sears Tower. (So we recently learned.)

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No, we have the cool sunset side while the cheeseheads have the crappy sunrise side. Indiana and Illinois don’t really count with their puny beaches.

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I jest, but I’m also kind of serious. There’s nothing wrong with _local_ pride. Michigan is a unique state just like all the other states. Ontario is a unique place. Our geography matters and it’s annoying to me that Trump wants to lump it all together as America.

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> And what does this ridiculous “executive order” even mean, outside of the US?

Absolutely nothing. I doubt very much that the rest of the world’s non-American cartographers will be changing their maps at all, in the same way they did not change anything when Trump renamed another body of water early in his second term.

Changing the name of a shared body of water unilaterally, especially because the head of one of the parties is pissed that he’s not getting his way with the other, is childish and stupid. The rest of the world cannot be blamed if they ignore yet another of the toddler’s tantrums.

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I just wish more people in the US would ignore his temper tantrums.

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> [@Toxgoddess](#):
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> 1. Changing Washington D.C. to Trump D.C.

Shouldn’t that be Trump D.T.?

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It’s Lake America not Lake Ontario now,

Lake America, not Lake Ontario now,

Why did Lake Ontario get the works?

That nobodies business but the jerk’s.

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I call the river that runs thru my county, “The Ol’ shitty”. Spoiler.. it’s the Ouachita River.

A county or two over is Calhoun county. Locally called “hog skin county”.

Yeah it’s what folks do who live around certain places. Woe upon you if you make fun from another location.

Trump can call things anything he wants. It makes little difference.

If I was a map printer I’d stop production. Do people still use paper maps, except the map nerds?

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> I care, but in a good way. If someone refers to Lake America or the Gulf of America, for any reason without massive irony and eye-rolling, or uses the term TDS, I am fucking done with them. Ditto for wearing any MAGA hat (though you have to be careful you’re checking to make sure it isn’t one of the parodies!).
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> If they want to wear their stupidity and loyalty over reason and the nation _proudly_, good, it saves me time!

Agreed. I have felt that way for over a decade regarding Trump supporters, and especially unapologetic MAGA supporters.

If a person is merely a Trump supporter, I know they are some combination of deluded, ignorant, stupid, and/or venal. If they are also a MAGA supporter, I can add racist and hateful to the list.

With the hats, bumper stickers, yard signs, and T-shirts they out themselves with various tells. Now they are adding verbal tells, like Gulf of America and Lake America.

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