# Now listen up, all you sons of bitches. It's Lake America now

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 27, 2026, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608 "2026-08-27T18:46:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2026, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/141 "2026-08-29T22:29:06Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Back then, Canada and the US were the best of friends and the American contribution to the fair was much appreciated. The Orange Peril was still many decades away from becoming a would-be dictator, and at the time was still busily engaged in real estate fraud and discriminatory rental policies.

Ya know, if the bone spur dodge didn’t work out, chances are Trump could have wound up as your next door neighbor.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2026, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/142 "2026-08-29T23:00:46Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> I don’t necessarily ask people their political leanings. If it was thrown in my face, by attire or words I would walk away. Don’t got it in me to fight folks anymore.

I’m pretty demure about politics in public.

I had a friend who would get out of his car to go confront Trump supporters. He did _not_ make it comfortable for them even though his was the minority opinion.

I miss him.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2026, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/143 "2026-08-29T23:02:50Z")

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I saw this quote in a NYT [story](https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/28/nyregion/lake-america-ontario-trump-canada.html) about renaming reactions from New York Staters who live near the lake. (Sorry, no gift link)

> David Hedley, 64, is the fourth-generation owner of Hedley Boatyard in Olcott on the shores of the Great Lake.  
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> His great-grandfather started the family business in 1900 — and Mr. Hedley said he would not be incorporating the lake’s new name into any business dealings.
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> **“Next they’ll be calling Canada geese ‘Donald ducks,’”** he said.

[Bolding mine]

I just liked the part about ‘Donald Ducks’ and wanted to share. Has anyone else suggested this line?

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2026, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/144 "2026-08-29T23:03:46Z")

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I got a meme from my mother-in-law about the same thing, so it’s going around.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2026, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/145 "2026-08-29T23:16:41Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> **“Next they’ll be calling Canada geese ‘Donald ducks,’”** he said.

I highly approve of this. Canada geese are famous for being obnoxious and shitting all over everything. I dislike the name “Canada” being associated with them, and “Donald ducks” is absolutely perfect! Let the renaming continue! I really want to see this formalized!

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2026, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/146 "2026-08-29T23:20:08Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> Has anyone else suggested this line?

Trump, for one.

> **[Trump's AI duck invasion baffles on both sides of the border: 'Our president...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-ducks/)**
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> President Donald Trump's Truth Social post depicting "Donald Ducks" invading Canada baffled critics north and south of the border.On Saturday, Trump posted an AI-generated video showing armed geese with his hairstyle invading from "Lake America." The...

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/147 "2026-08-30T01:07:30Z")

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From today’s news:

> **[Ontario premier answers Trump’s ‘Lake America’ with giant ‘Lake Ontario’ sign](https://apnews.com/article/lake-ontario-america-trump-canada-ford-60bf599146367923edb28dfc327edf98)**
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> Ontario Premier Doug Ford has responded to President Trump’s “Lake America” decree with a billboard declaring “Lake Ontario. Now and Always.”

From the item:

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> TORONTO (AP) — Ontario Premier Doug Ford answered President Donald Trump’s “Lake America” decree Saturday with a billboard-sized message on the Canadian shoreline — “Lake Ontario. Now and Always” — as Canadian leaders met the move with ridicule rather than outrage.
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> The display followed Trump’s executive order directing U.S. federal agencies to call Lake Ontario “Lake America.” After months of [tariffs](https://apnews.com/article/trump-tariff-canada-supreme-court-depression-e5501950e025dbe8df2b7ec662dbe2e4), threats to make Canada the [51st U.S. state](https://apnews.com/article/how-canada-could-become-us-state-42360e10ded96c0046fd11eaaf55ab88) and personal [attacks on its leaders](https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-mark-carney-oval-office-a6a9118ea26692c9658fde5c7355ce39), the reaction in Canada has mixed defiance with mockery.
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> Ford said Trump was trying to rename the lake because Ontario and Canada were “standing up for ourselves” and argued the name would outlast the president.

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**Author:** ![Keith1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6de8d8/32.png) [@Keith1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Keith1)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/148 "2026-08-30T02:05:25Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Ontario Premier Doug Ford answered President Donald Trump’s “Lake America” decree Saturday

Coincidentally, there just so happens to be a by-election happening in a few days where this populist a\_hole had this sign erected. He would never miss an opportunity to hike his fat ass somewhere where he could be noticed as being “one of the common folk". If not for that he’d have been nowhere near the area, but more likely enjoying his luxury summer home in Muskoka.  
Check Ford’s history. He was an avid supported of Trump up until the time it became horrendously unpopular to be.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/149 "2026-08-30T03:47:20Z")

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> [@Keith1](#):
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> Check Ford’s history. He was an avid supported of Trump up until the time it became horrendously unpopular to be.

To paraphrase Churchill, if Trump were to declare war on Hell I would put in a favorable mention on behalf of the devil.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/150 "2026-08-30T04:03:10Z")

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Regardless, Ford has been one of the fiercest critics of Trump during this second Trump regime, particularly spurred on by the tariff nonsense. As a result, his popularity has soared and if an election were held today, according to 338Canada he’d have an 89% change of winning, though slightly more likely to form a minority government than a majority. I usually vote Liberal or NDP but unlike my issues with the present and some past federal Conservative Party leaders, I’ve never had a problem with Doug Ford’s policies.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/151 "2026-08-30T06:12:28Z")

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OH FUCK OFF GOOGLE

[![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55497107550_e2a55eb4c0_b.jpg) ](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55497107550_e2a55eb4c0_b.jpg)

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/152 "2026-08-30T06:54:30Z")

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Is this for real? I’m seeing “Lake Ontario”, so perhaps Google is customizing the name based on geographic location, so the orange man-child is placated. As previously mentioned, Google is vulnerable to sanctions from the Orange Peril so is inclined to go along with the gag until a sane president reverses all the bullshit. Just two more years, if we can live through it. I imagine it shows as “Lake Ontario” throughout the world and will continue to do so.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/153 "2026-08-30T06:56:48Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Is this for real?

It’s a screenshot I took myself.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/154 "2026-08-30T07:02:44Z")

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My screenshot, taken just now. I’m in Canada.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/7KofCLu.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/7KofCLu.jpeg)

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Is this for real? I’m seeing “Lake Ontario”, so perhaps Google is customizing the name based on geographic location

**Smapti** is showing a screenshot he took of the Google Maps that he can access. You and I, being in Canada, see “Lake Ontario,” when we access Google Maps from our Canadian locations. (Yes, I checked too.) So it must be based on geographic location.

ETA: Ninja’d! But that’s okay.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/156 "2026-08-30T07:06:15Z")

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I don’t have a VPN, but someone who does could probably confirm this by setting their location to Canada and loading Google Maps, then setting it to the US and doing the same.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/157 "2026-08-30T07:08:52Z")

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Google appears to be cleverly trying to appease the vindictive man-child but limiting the change to US locations, correctly believing that he and his minions are too stupid to realize that the changes aren’t global.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> I don’t have a VPN, but someone who does could probably confirm this by setting their location to Canada and loading Google Maps, then setting it to the US and doing the same.

Why bother? I’m in Canada with an identifiable Canadian IP address, and I’m clearly seeing “Lake Ontario”.

In any case, the change, though US only, will last at most two years. Then it will revert to what it’s been for 400 years, the new name collapsing like a cheaply built ballroom or a defectively renovated reflecting pool.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/158 "2026-08-30T07:11:04Z")

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I’m the same. In Canada, that is, though a few thousand miles away from your location. Still, we’re both in Canada, and we’re both seeing “Lake Ontario.”

Maybe it really is time to close the Welland Canal to American shipping. Either that, or post a huge “Welcome to Lake Ontario” sign beside the canal for ships entering Lake Ontario.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/159 "2026-08-30T07:25:03Z")

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I can confirm I see Ontario in the UK and America with a US VPN

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-listen-up-all-you-sons-of-bitches-its-lake-america-now/1032608/160 "2026-08-30T09:50:17Z")

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My question is why any major map co. would even placate the toddler. Tariffs? Lawsuits? Please…

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