# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2222 "2022-12-19T00:43:21Z")

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This one’s not real, but it is amusing;

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkTIH9CXkAMUkuP?format=png&name=small) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkTIH9CXkAMUkuP?format=png&name=small)

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2223 "2022-12-19T00:46:18Z")

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There were some good comments about the poll in that thread. My favourite was the one suggesting that Elmo should be polling Tesla investors instead of his sycophantic freak fans. Indeed, the audience for this poll are those following Elmo on Twitter. Those opposed to Elmo’s meddling in Twitter are (mostly) either not following him or have left or been banned from Twitter.

Another good observation is the bleeding obvious fact that this poll will make not the slightest difference in what Elmo does. One comment made the prediction that the following will happen:

If the vote is “yes”, Elmo will leave in a few months after appointing a duly sycophantic flunky as CEO.

If the vote is “no”, Elmo will leave in a few months after appointing a duly sycophantic flunky as CEO.

It’s another stupid stunt by a pathologically insecure psychopath.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2224 "2022-12-19T00:52:12Z")

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Survey says.

Ding.

The number one answer.

🙂

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2225 "2022-12-19T01:06:18Z")

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And Jared Kushner.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2226 "2022-12-19T01:11:16Z")

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“Do you like me Y/N?”

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2227 "2022-12-19T01:11:41Z")

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Q: How do you make crucial leadership decisions after spending $44 billion to buy a company?

A: If you’re Elmo, you run a Twitter poll.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2228 "2022-12-19T01:18:14Z")

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Thus “wisdom of crowds” \> “wisdom of Musk”.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2229 "2022-12-19T01:20:34Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Meanwhile, he’s in Qatar palling around with oil tycoons.

Yep, his faithful Gulfstream is in Qatar, alright. After a stopover in London. He’s putting a lot of hours on that toy!

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2230 "2022-12-19T01:29:39Z")

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The only thing nearly as expensive as an airplane you fly is … an airplane you don’t fly.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2231 "2022-12-19T01:40:31Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> > [@Smapti](#):
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> > Meanwhile, he’s in Qatar palling around with oil tycoons.
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> Yep, his faithful Gulfstream is in Qatar, alright. After a stopover in London. He’s putting a lot of hours on that toy!

Careful, if this thread is linked on twitter, as competing social media, we may be banned from twitter!

Oh noes! Then again, this may be our chance to replace twitter . . . nah, we wouldn’t want to.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2232 "2022-12-19T01:41:33Z")

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When can we start calling it Bird-chan?

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2233 "2022-12-19T01:43:16Z")

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If you’re going there @JohnT, raise you with [Birdhouse In Your Soul!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhjSzjoU7OQ)

> I’m your only friend  
> I’m not your only friend  
> But I’m a little glowing friend  
> But really I’m not actually your friend  
> But I am
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> Blue canary in the outlet by the light switch  
> Who watches over you  
> Make a little birdhouse in your soul

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2234 "2022-12-19T01:53:41Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> The only thing nearly as expensive as an airplane you fly is … an airplane you don’t fly.

Well, from an airline’s POV, a plane sitting on the ground instead of generating revenue is indeed a big expense. The economics may be quite different for a private jet since it doesn’t generate revenue and the operating costs are quite substantial. The figures below are the fixed and variable costs for a Gulfstream 650, the variable costs based on 400 hours per year. It does not include the capital cost for the airplane itself (around $70 million).

So, yeah, you’re paying about $1.4 million per year for an airplane just sitting on the ground, PLUS potentially huge leasing costs for the plane itself, or lost opportunity costs from the $70 mil you’ve sunk into it. But if you don’t care about that, operating costs @ 400 hours a year more than double your annual costs due to actually flying it.

As a side note, at least Elmo has the intelligence to fly a normal business jet. If the numbers below look extravagant, imagine what Trump has to pay for his 757 jumbo. Boeing has problems selling its BBJ and BBJ2 business jet variants of the 737 because even the world’s largest corporations consider it to be a conspicuous extravagance. My conclusion is that as crazy as Elmo is, the Orange Menace has an even more psychopathic ego.

```auto
Total Annual Fixed Costs $1,377,395 
 Total Annual Cockpit Subscription Services Costs $47,700 
 Total Owner Annual Variable Cost $1,541,100 
 Total Annual Cabin Services Costs $164,542 
 Total Annual Trip Support Costs $216,883 
 Grand Total Owner Flown Annual Expenses $3,347,620 
  Owner Cost per Flight Hour $8,369 

```

> **[The Costs to Own and Operate a Gulfstream G650](https://www.sherpareport.com/aircraft/costs-gulfstream-g650.html)**
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> The costs to buy and operate a Gulfstream G650, including fixed costs and variable costs, and cost per hour.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2235 "2022-12-19T02:02:33Z")

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> [@Red\_Wiggler](#):
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> Do you like me Y/N?

> <https://mobile.twitter.com/rob_sheridan/status/1593804465177788416>

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2236 "2022-12-19T02:17:53Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> If the vote is “yes”, Elmo will leave in a few months after appointing a duly sycophantic flunky as CEO.
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> If the vote is “no”, Elmo will leave in a few months after appointing a duly sycophantic flunky as CEO.

Yes, of course.

He believes that by subbing in a yes-man CEO as scapegoat, he can go on doing as he pleases at Twitter–harassing those who criticize him, elevating right-wing CTs, and generally trashing the entire concept that Facts Matter.

And everyone will love him again! They’ll blame it all on the yes-man CEO! So now all Musk’s press will be positive and the Tesla stock price will soar!!!

He really, truly is _that_ disconnected with reality.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2237 "2022-12-19T02:58:08Z")

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> <https://mobile.twitter.com/TwitterSafety/status/1604657989977260033>

Elmo is clearly using the royal we here.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2238 "2022-12-19T03:06:39Z")

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Remember the “crazy stalker” that Elmo claimed tracked him via elonjet?

The Washington Post tracked him down and found out there’s no link to elonjet - he lives in Grimes’ neighborhood and has paranoid fantasies about Elmo sabotaging his Uber Eats account.

> **[Elon Musk blamed a Twitter account for a stalker. Police see no link.](http://web.archive.org/web/20221219023720/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/12/18/details-of-musk-stalking-incident/)**
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> The incident last week underscored how Elon Musk’s personal concerns can influence his governance of a social media platform used by hundreds of millions of people.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2239 "2022-12-19T03:16:28Z")

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The head of the French cyber crimes division just warned Twitter that if it bans links to other social media, France will treat them like an editorial medium and subject to laws preventing illegal content.

> <https://twitter.com/ericfreyss/status/1604538198054535169>

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2240 "2022-12-19T04:09:24Z")

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I’m getting page does not exist on [https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/social-platforms-policy](https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/social-platforms-policy) - and on the two twits @JohnT linked to 10 hours ago stating that Twitter Support will remove accounts ‘promoting’ other social media platforms.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2241 "2022-12-19T04:46:01Z")

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They’ve already deleted the tweet.

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