# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2602 "2023-01-09T20:34:27Z")

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You mean like 99% of Twitter useres? Hot pithy takes seems to be Twitter’s bread and butter.

Musk loves trolling. What he hasn’t figured out apparently (or doesn’t care) is that trolling may be fun for him and was acceptable when he was just another user, but now that he’s the owner he needs to take more care with his messaging.

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**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2603 "2023-01-09T20:36:54Z")

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Wow, I was actually going to give him the benefit of the doubt because I assumed the second tweet Sam posted was in fact a direct reply to the first, but this is ridiculous. “Lol no, newton’s third law” is not the tweet of an intelligent man who knows a lot about rockets, it would have taken no more effort to say “Electric rockets are far from lifting payloads into orbit, but have been used on satellites in orbit for decades.”

He didn’t say that, though, no matter how much you want to believe he said that, he said something dismissive that, at a minimum, demonstrates he didn’t think very hard about the question. Am I supposed to respect him for this? He comes off as an ignorant douche, which only plays into the increasing popular perception of him as an ignorant douche.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2604 "2023-01-09T20:37:24Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Musk loves trolling.

Yup. That’s basically what I’m (and other people are) saying. When he acts like an arrogant ass and inadvertently says something stupid in the process, he gets dunked on, and properly so.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2605 "2023-01-09T20:44:01Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Musk loves trolling.

Correction - Musk is like most conservative public figures - mediocre intellect, says a lot of stupid stuff, hand-waves it away by saying “lol I was trolling”. Or, he was kidding. Or, it’s not a big deal.

Anything except saying “I was factually wrong and I accept correction from my critics.” That’s something right-wingers won’t do.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2606 "2023-01-09T22:02:25Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Or, you can snark and hate Musk…

Hey, Alright! Since your giving me options, I’ll take this one!

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2607 "2023-01-09T23:12:22Z")

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As someone who routinely uses his truck for trucky things, I am repulsed by the current crop of electric pickups and their useless beds. I too realize that for many people a truck is just a station wagon with an open back, but for a very large number of us it’s actually a - Truck -

(IMO, if I can’t put a 4x8 sheet in it, and if I can’t load it with a bobcat, it isn’t a truck)

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**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2608 "2023-01-09T23:14:59Z")

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I’m a semi-retired contractor, and a 6’4" bed with a headache rack is just fine. I will note the Ram Rev with the pass-through will accommodate 18’ material…

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2609 "2023-01-09T23:19:53Z")

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> [@Tride](#):
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> a 6’4" bed with a headache rack is just fine. I will note the Ram Rev with the pass-through will accommodate 18’ material

I have no idea what this means, but I am memorizing it so that I may pass among the humans undetected.

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2610 "2023-01-09T23:21:19Z")

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Agree- but I can put a 4x8 sheet in my 6’5" (?) bed. If I have lots of them I leave the tailgate down and use a strap. If I have a couple (and they aren’t too flimsy) I just slide them in and let them angle up over the tailgate.

I don’t know the dimensions of that thing, but it doesn’t look like you’d practically get a sheet in it to me.

ETA: Also why I insist on a sliding rear window. From tailgate to dash is about 14 feet, which is handy for things like moldings

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**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2611 "2023-01-09T23:25:45Z")

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I think the Ram and the Chevy are 6’+. Lightning is 6’4". Cybertruck, no idea. My snowbike was 10’ long and hung off the tailgate but worked just fine. My beef is with everyone who has a pickup with a semi-permanently closed tonneau cover. This _might_ be a sign you don’t really need a pickup

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2612 "2023-01-09T23:26:05Z")

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I loved my Ford F150, but it finally rusted out and I’ve never replaced it. I’ve casually looked at the Ford Lightning…  
the problem is my F150 bed was 6.5 feet, and that was just long enough, but the Ford lightning is 5.5 feet… I’m not even sure what I would do with that.

Ford is already looking at a new line of electric trucks though, so either way I wouldn’t buy anything like that right now.

ETA I see the post above mine says the lightning is a little over 6 feet, that wasn’t my understanding. Just looking online, I’m saying 67.1 inches, 2” longer than I thought.

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2613 "2023-01-09T23:27:52Z")

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Agreed. I like the extended (not crew) cab because I use the back “seat” as a trunk / doghouse. I removed the seats and cut a piece of wood to make a smooth floor. I don’t want the extra length of the crew cab and I don’t need the seats of one.

And I have a boring office job and a decrepit old house.

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**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2614 "2023-01-09T23:33:19Z")

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Sorry–I might have mis-remembered. The full-size pickups have really upped their tailgate game, so I feel like it may be less of an issue. If you DON’T have a tonneau cover, the big cab is a nice place to store/stash stuff.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2615 "2023-01-10T00:45:04Z")

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Can we say there is at least some degree of consensus that **as a truck** , that concept “Cybertruck” was daft? Whether or not Elon was in any way directly involved?

Meanwile, back at the ranch… I say that Elon _ **IS** _ someone who **believes** being a troll who is rich enough to escape consequences is peak cleverness. Because as long as he can tell himself he is in our heads rent-free, and we can do nothing to him, he thinks he’s winning.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2616 "2023-01-10T05:18:36Z")

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I can’t sort by latest tweets.

I found this article:

> [@](#):
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> It looks like Twitter will do away with the ability to sort feeds by the latest tweets once again, and instead add more categories to the home page. When one Twitter user said that “the chronological order is always a must,” Musk responded by saying “it’s good to switch back & forth.”
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> The Twitter CEO added that once Twitter improves its AI, recommended tweets, lists, and topics “will become awesome.”

> **[Twitter to Overhaul App Navigation in January, Says Elon Musk • iPhone in...](https://www.iphoneincanada.ca/2022/12/31/twitter-to-overhaul-app-navigation-in-january-says-elon-musk/)**
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> Users will be able to horizontally swipe on the home screen to switch between recommended tweets from followed accounts, trends, topics, and more.

Hopefully, it’s a glitch and everything will be normal again soon and there will be no need to panic/get angry at evil Mr Twitter Man.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2617 "2023-01-10T10:49:25Z")

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> (IMO, if I can’t put a 4x8 sheet in it, and if I can’t load it with a bobcat, it isn’t a truck)

The fact that you didn’t capitalize “bobcat” worries me…

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2618 "2023-01-10T11:45:48Z")

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What a man does with wildlife in the bed of his truck is a private matter.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2619 "2023-01-10T14:24:51Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> I can’t sort by latest tweets.
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> I found this article:
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> > [@](#):
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> > It looks like Twitter will do away with the ability to sort feeds by the latest tweets once again, and instead add more categories to the home page. When one Twitter user said that “the chronological order is always a must,” Musk responded by saying “it’s good to switch back & forth.”
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> > The Twitter CEO added that once Twitter improves its AI, recommended tweets, lists, and topics “will become awesome.”
> 
> [Twitter to Overhaul App Navigation in January, Says Elon Musk • iPhone in Canada Blog](https://www.iphoneincanada.ca/news/twitter-to-overhaul-app-navigation-in-january-says-elon-musk/)  
> Hopefully, it’s a glitch and everything will be normal again soon and there will be no need to panic/get angry at evil Mr Twitter Man.

In other works, Lord Elmo (or his AI minions) will decide what you get to read and you will like it. Big Brother is Good.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2620 "2023-01-10T15:11:02Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> hastily tweeting from his toilet. It happens. His “Newtons third law” part of the tweet makes sense in that context

So, does that mean if he poots out a sufficiently large or sufficiently fast baby elmo he will lift off from the toilet seat?

> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> This verifies what I said - that he was specifically talking about electric propulsion in terms of lifting off from Earth.

Rail gun, aka mass driver. Electric launch system.

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2621 "2023-01-10T15:26:21Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Rail gun, aka mass driver. Electric launch system.

TBF the question was about an “electric rocket”. So I’ll give him that. Which is not much and he still acted dickish and gave a silly answer.

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