# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 132
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2622 "2023-01-10T15:33:00Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > and he still acted dickish and gave a silly answer. No argument from me there! ---
**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2623 "2023-01-10T19:24:47Z")
Not being allowed to see every tweet of the people I follow in chronological order is a dealbreaker for me and a lot of other people. I don’t want to see the tweets Twitter thinks I want to see. If I wanted to see those tweets, I’d be following those people. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2624 "2023-01-10T19:59:01Z")
Hmm, the ability to sort chronologically hasn’t gone away for me yet. It is in my opinion one of the most important options on Twitter, particularly because I follow sports teams, and back before I toggled it on I would just keep getting random game updates, even days later. But I also like it because I just don’t trust any algorithms to accurately queue up what I actually want. If they turn that off, I may resort to one of those Twitter tools that a lot of people use to manage their streams. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2625 "2023-01-10T22:28:35Z")
More than that, it’s patronizing. It’s a feature that’s very simple, very popular and already exists. Very much a case of don’t mess with something that already works beautifully. Instead we get “Don’t worry your pretty little head. I know better than you. I’ll tell you what you should like. Oh, I’m not in it for the monetization aspects whatsoever. Who gave you that silly idea, some beta cuck liberal?” ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2626 "2023-01-11T02:07:41Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > As someone who routinely uses his truck for trucky things, I am repulsed by the current crop of electric pickups and their useless beds. The Cybertruck sticks out to me as one of the worst designs for utility…I’m guessing that the design team (or was it just a designer?) saw pickup trucks with caps and thought, “Yeah! What that bed needs is taller sides!” I don’t have a pickup truck, but I do hang on to my vehicles for a long time, so I was very pleased to see an early review of the Lightning that indicated the batteries would be relatively easy to replace. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2627 "2023-01-11T02:29:28Z")
Let’s hope his next truck, then, has a permanent tonneau cover with 3’6" bed. And really tall sides. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2628 "2023-01-11T03:11:30Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > 3’6" bed. > And really tall sides. And it’ll be called _CyberTruck2: The Phone Booth._ ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2629 "2023-01-11T15:53:06Z")
Now that he is pandering to the right, will the vehicle come with the Cyber Truck Bumper Nutz as a standard accessory rather than upgrade? I’ve read they will be more than mere decoration but actually small reserve batteries that come into action when the main batteries are depleted and you need that small spurt to get you over the finish line. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2630 "2023-01-11T16:57:16Z")
[Twitter is facing another failure-to-pay lawsuit](https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/twitter-sued-again-by-bay-area-marketing-company-17708338.php), this time from a marketing firm. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2631 "2023-01-11T23:19:23Z")
[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmC_r6pXEBY3-1p?format=jpg&name=medium) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmC_r6pXEBY3-1p?format=jpg&name=medium) ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2632 "2023-01-12T16:56:09Z")
After Ken Klippenstein posted a video of a Tesla accident (see self driving car thread in IMHO), his blue-check account disappeared from search prefills, even when fully spelled out. I can’t really think of an algorithmic way this would happen, so it might just be someone at Tesla being a big baby. (but not even necessarily Musk, it could be someone caping for him) > > > Ken Klippenstein @kenklippenstein ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2633 "2023-01-13T09:31:38Z")
Tesla just announced big price cuts in U.S. and Europe. The market doesn’t like it, stock down 5% premarket. > **[Tesla cuts prices in the U.S. and Europe to stoke sales after lackluster...](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/13/tesla-cuts-prices-in-us-and-europe-to-stoke-sales.html)** > > Electric vehicle maker Tesla is cutting prices in the United States and throughout Europe again, according to listings on the company's website. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2634 "2023-01-13T13:26:36Z")
The _stock_ market doesn’t like it. The _car_ market might embrace it. I admit I follow Tesla very little, neither as a factory nor as a stock. What I find a bit odd is that I had thought Tesla has quite a delivery backlog. Their “problem” was more a matter of delivering what they’d sold than it was selling more. Which is a nice problem to have, up to a point. To be sure, as the other car makers ramp up production of their EV sedans, sports cars, SUVs, and trucks, Tesla’s _de facto_ monopoly on hard core EV was bound to erode. Are we seeing that now, or are we seeing the stock market pre-reacting to Tesla pre-reacting to the emergence of real high-volume competition? I know I don’t know. But Tesla (or any company) can only take so many individually minor hits from so many directions at once before it starts bleeding excessively. Then the sharks & buzzards start to circle. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2635 "2023-01-13T13:44:00Z")
Not sure where to post this, but it’s about Musk and this is the Pit so maybe here? When I was young, our school tried to set a record and get in the Guinness World Records (I think we did, but cannot remember…I just know it was a lot of fun). Not sure Elon was trying, but he made it in: > **[Elon Musk has lost more money than anyone in history, Guinness World Records...](https://www.npr.org/2023/01/12/1148634966/elon-musk-guinness-world-records)** > > Musk has lost hundreds of billions of dollars in recent years, largely due to Tesla stock plummeting. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2636 "2023-01-13T14:22:09Z")
TSLA was and is overpriced based on their performance. They were priced as if they were selling every car on the planet. TSLA is _still_ priced at a nearly 400B market cap. It is insane. Double Toyota at ~200B. A fair market cap would be maybe 50-60B, perhaps less if you (general you, not you you) believe that they’re going into headwinds. I’ve noticed there’s been a bit of a surge in buying lately. I think the people buying right now, thinking the worst is over, are going to end up as bagholders. Also, I predict Cybertruck is going to be a train wreck. It is such an awful vehicle. And there will be lawsuits when people die because they cannot get out of the vehicle. The door release in the back seat is UNDER the rug, and with the windows being possibly quite difficult to break, people are going to die. I wouldn’t even be surprised if a couple of states (e.g., California) simply declare it unsafe for road travel and ban it. ---
**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2637 "2023-01-13T15:48:41Z")
More trouble from earlier this morning; don’t know if it’s been fixed yet. > **[Third-party Twitter apps are facing issues, users say](https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/12/third-party-twitter-apps-tweetbot-twitterrific-echofon-down/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9uZXdzLmdvb2dsZS5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANkH6obzFe9RYY0VCAglaLoMwQIgNZXsaQLKIckMn2gXLc4A1mRdCHJKpVgw4_w-ubG6FuyuV1BohZYv69hGFLby9SYUldhyOY32YTQLyA9myl0IoEdp94qezspc9NQ59HmznzcnzY-yQpPobrVhiSZJYE3Lz3v09M4UMXPGlSzr)** > > People using third-party Twitter clients are facing a number of issues including unable to log in and access Twitter feeds. Tweetbot, Echofon, and Twitterrific, three popular third-party Twitter apps, confirmed the issues and noted that they are not... ---
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2638 "2023-01-13T16:35:54Z")
Now lookee here. I did not say I was a billionaire. But I said I spent more money than a billionaire. If I had a kept all the money that I done already spent, I woulda been a billionaire a long time ago. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2639 "2023-01-13T16:37:40Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > I admit I follow Tesla very little, neither as a factory nor as a stock. What I find a bit odd is that I had thought Tesla has quite a delivery backlog. Their “problem” was more a matter of delivering what they’d sold than it was selling more. Which is a nice problem to have, up to a point. They outproduced deliveries last year by a modest margin. > **[Tesla reports 1.31 million deliveries in 2022, growth of 40% over last year](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/02/tesla-tsla-q4-2022-vehicle-delivery-and-production-numbers.html)** > > Tesla reports 1.31 million deliveries in 2022, growth of 40% over last year ---
**Author:** ![ByuBilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ab097/32.png) [@ByuBilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ByuBilly)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2640 "2023-01-13T18:32:48Z")
Just going by how the average car commercial is vs the amateur commercial (think zoom zoom campaign). Tesla has terrible commerials. But I have lately seen almost every car manufacturer with those standard slick commercials that tick all the subconscious and conscious buttons. Tesla I feel is about to slide hard and fully. The entire industry is now “in with ev” and taking its huge marketing experience and spanking tesla like a red headed step child (my friend Paul hates that joke sorry I love it cuz it makes me think of him… yes hes a red headed step child 😉 ). ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/2641 "2023-01-13T18:54:54Z")
> [@ByuBilly](#): > > Tesla has terrible commerials. Huh. It just occurred to me that I have _never_ seen a commercial for Tesla. I figured it was all word-of-mouth. That’s all I got to say about this, despite being in the Pit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=131) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=133)