# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3304 "2023-02-21T02:07:14Z")

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> [@Chingon](#):
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> I mean misogyny is gross no matter what side is doing it. But good one I guess.

Indeed.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3305 "2023-02-21T02:09:32Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> It’s hard to resist a nice pun, but this is one that you should have resisted.

The Whore of MAGAlon isn’t a clever pun. MAGAts is a clever pun. Calling her Orange Jesus’s Mary MAGAlene would have been in the neighborhood of a clever pun. But that’s just an excuse for a bit of misogyny.

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**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3306 "2023-02-21T02:09:35Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> it would make sense to just get rid of 1FA and SMS 2FA altogether and require _all_ users to use a more secure method of 2FA.

App based 2FA has significant usability concerns vs SMS based. SMS 2FA involves you giving Twitter some info to set up and can be done in less than 30 seconds, App based 2FA involves Twitter giving you info and you handling the info correctly. That’s not a big deal for sites you use constantly but if you do it for every site you use, even one time, that’s a significant burden.

Also, if you drop your phone in a river and you, like a normal human being, didn’t bother to write down your backup codes or wrote them down but lost them, congratulations, you’ve permanently lost access to all your accounts. With SMS based, you can just go to your carrier and as long as you can convince them you’re you, you get a new SIM and can regain access to your accounts again.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3307 "2023-02-21T02:43:43Z")

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…how bad is Twitter now?

Its this _level_ bad.

> <https://twitter.com/EvilGalProds/status/1627859903456112640>

If you try and like the screenshotted negative tweet about Tesla you got a prompt that suggested “Help keep Twitter a more reliable place. Find out more before liking this tweet.”

I went to the tweet myself and tried liking it: and got the same modal, so can confirm that this is true.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3308 "2023-02-21T02:48:03Z")

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> [@Shalmanese](#):
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> App based 2FA involves Twitter giving you info and you handling the info correctly.

It doesn’t have to. Google doesn’t do it that way. You just need an app on iOS or an Android phone with a Google account on it.

Sure, you still get your backup security key, but you should also get that for SMS, too.

Also, don’t forget about email-based 2FA. That seems quite popular. You sign in, they send you an email and you verify that you logged in. It works as long as you can keep your email secure.

And I use Gmail with the app-based 2FA I just mentioned.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3309 "2023-02-21T03:07:50Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> I went to the tweet myself and tried liking it: and got the same modal, so can confirm that this is true.

…I just tested it a bit further: it wasn’t the link to a Tesla story that prompted it, but a link to China Daily. Which is still bad IMHO, but not as bad as I initially thought.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3310 "2023-02-21T21:15:10Z")

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> **[Things Former Twitter Employees Said About Elon Musk That Got Them Fired](https://www.theonion.com/things-former-twitter-employees-said-about-elon-musk-th-1849810398)**
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> Rule No. 1 of working at Twitter? Do not insult the chief twit. Here are things that former employees said about Elon Musk that immediately got them fired.

The line between satire and reality is becoming increasingly blurred. There are a few here I could see being real.

Dammit I should have taken the horse!?!

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3311 "2023-02-21T23:29:49Z")

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Rule #1 for working at any company: Do not insult the CEO in public. I’m having a hard time imagining any company that wouldn’t crack down on you if you did that.

One reason I never talked about my employer is because there is a general prohibition against saying anything bad about the company while identifying yourself as an employee. It’s a potential termination offense. You can say, “I think automation is dangerous” and get away woth it, but if you say, “I’m an employee at Siemens, and I think our automation could be dangerous”, expect at least a severe talking-to. If you leak e-mails to make the CEO look bad, or otherwise smack-talk the CEO while you are identifying as an employee, you’d simply be fired.

In this case, not only are the employees insulting their boss, they are intentionally subverting what he wants to do. I’d fire them too.

Now, if an employee had a private heated exchange with me and called me a name, I’d put up with it if the employee was otherwise valuable. But no one would ever know about the exchange.

One other factor here is that Elon knows Twitter has a lot of activist employees opposed to him politically, who will likely be a thorn in his side and may actually sabotge the company from within, ‘quiet quit’, or whatever. So when these idiots insult him, they are just letting him know who to fire. It’s not the insults per se, it’s that they ‘out’ potential problem employees in the company. I wouldn’t want employees who hate me and hate my goals, and if I could get them to all hold up a sign identifying themselves, I’d fire the lot. Elon has been doing basically that.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3312 "2023-02-21T23:40:20Z")

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Imagine typing a multi-paragraph impassioned defense of someone’s behavior based on their portrayal in an Onion article.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3313 "2023-02-21T23:45:16Z")

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It’s… Odd.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3314 "2023-02-21T23:47:21Z")

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I really liked the part where Sam came out in favor of punishing whistle-blowers!

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3315 "2023-02-21T23:50:35Z")

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This message brought to you by not a Musk fanboy. 🤣

I wonder if Musk from his 20,000 foot in the air view would have been able to tell that was an Onion article? Don’t feel bad Sam, he sees things that are beyond us mere mortals.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3316 "2023-02-21T23:55:24Z")

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Imagine Sam expecting anyone to take him seriously after this.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3317 "2023-02-21T23:56:37Z")

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Happy SDMB Anniversary!!

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3318 "2023-02-21T23:56:46Z")

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Oh dear!

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3319 "2023-02-21T23:58:30Z")

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I had no idea discourse did cake days. My SDMB account can drive now!

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3320 "2023-02-22T00:11:19Z")

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Loyalty. All the UberTrumpenFuhrer’s and UberMuskenFuhrers prize that above all other personality traits. At least when grading their toadies.

They prize other traits in the ~~people~~ sole person they actually care about.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3321 "2023-02-22T01:27:37Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> Imagine Sam expecting anyone to take him seriously after this.

A lifetime of reading science fiction and fantasy hasn’t stretched my imagination quite _that_ far.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3322 "2023-02-22T01:41:19Z")

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I actually read the article and it is nothing like SS portrays. He fired people for going to the bathroom for god’s sake! I can get on board with him firing folks for liking the green album.

/s

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3323 "2023-02-22T01:56:09Z")

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I was just making a general comment about what happens to anyone who undermines their company in public. I never said anything about bathrooms. I wasn’t even talking about Musk in particular, just the general principle.

> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> This message brought to you by not a Musk fanboy.

I’m not a fanboy of Musk. Go see what I said about Hyperloop. I generally respond here not to defend Musk, but when the criticism gets so stupid I can’t help myself.

I do love that on a board with a thread on ‘Republican freakouts’ there are 3319 posts in a thread about Elon Musk buying Twitter.

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