# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3344 "2023-02-22T20:56:33Z")

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If that happens, then I rescind my offer to declare him a genius and savior of humanity.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3345 "2023-02-22T21:03:48Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> I do love that on a board with a thread on ‘Republican freakouts’ there are 3319 posts in a thread about Elon Musk buying Twitter.

Elon Musk wasted a minimum of $20 billion in capital because he was afraid of the Woke Mind Virus, Sam. He is a _splendid_ example of a Freakout of the Right, thank you!

And go ahead and start your thread with Freakouts of the Left. It’s a free board… for those not scared of it. Sam.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3346 "2023-02-22T21:04:37Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> No, your brag was _not_ enhanced by sneaking in a spurious claim that the 21st century didn’t begin until 2001.

[serious pedantry]  
Her join date is December 20th, 1999. A year and eleven days is reasonably close to “a year” for all but the most serious pedants.  
[/serious pedantry]

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3347 "2023-02-22T21:06:32Z")

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Do we really want social media killed? I mean, _this_ right here is social media. So is Youtube, even wikipedia.

The alternative is going back to exclusive control of the media by corporations.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3348 "2023-02-22T21:06:38Z")

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It’s not the few days between Dec 20th and Jan 1st. It’s the question of whether the 21st century began in 2000 or 2001.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3349 "2023-02-22T21:10:50Z")

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Wait, which one are you saying it started on? The obviously correct 2001, or the entirely foolish 2000 that’s only promoted by criminals and foreign agents?

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3350 "2023-02-22T21:13:20Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> The obviously correct 2001, or the entirely foolish 2000 that’s only promoted by criminals and foreign agents?

I appreciate your wonderfully ironic endorsement of the fact that the entirely arbitrary start date was obviously when the entire world celebrated it.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3351 "2023-02-22T21:14:58Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/7/76954f5bb76d686a8bcc2f48e7376c2067902dc3.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3352 "2023-02-22T21:29:43Z")

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Quoting my own post that generated the last blast of outrage in this thread.

Somehow, people took from this that I didn’t know the Onion was satire. But that wasn’t the point. All I was saying was that it’s pretty common to get fired if you diss your company in public while making it clear your are associated with the company, It happens all the time. It wasn’t a direct rebuttal to obvious satire, just something I wanted to point out.

And it’s true, and relatively on-point. But of course the peoole here will choose the least defensible interpretation, then others will take it farther, and before you know it I’m a liar who is so stupid that I don’t even know the Onion is satire, and _can you believe it? There he goes again!_ and then this episode will be used in the future as further evidence that I am not to be trusted.

I get the game. I understand the partisan motive and the tactics. We aren’t debating in good faith - you are picking apart the ‘others’ posts for _anything_ that can be used to attack and belittle them, so you can ‘win’ and get high fives from your fellow pit denizens. It’s sad and tribal, but true.

You all think you are sophisticated thinkers, but at least in the pit you are just a tribe of howler monkeys waiting to fling poo at the other side so the other monkeys will like you.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3353 "2023-02-22T21:32:38Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> And go ahead and start your thread with Freakouts of the Left. It’s a free board… for those not scared of it. Sam.

Yeah, not my style. I’d rather debate ideas and fun things than participate in another tedious attack on the ‘other’. No one learns a thing, it alienates potential members of the board, ruins people’s moods, and there’s already enough toxic shit on the internet if that’s what floats your boat.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3354 "2023-02-22T21:34:57Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Somehow, people took from this that I didn’t know the Onion was satire.

The part where you said:

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> In this case, not only are the employees insulting their boss, they are intentionally subverting what he wants to do. I’d fire them too.

If “in this case” was not referring to the Onion article, then what are you claiming it was referring to?

> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> You all think you are sophisticated thinkers, but at least in the pit you are just a tribe of howler monkeys waiting to fling poo at the other side so the other monkeys will like you.

You think you are a martyr for a cause, but you are a rebel without a clue.

Just admit you made a mistake, you’ll feel better afterwards.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3355 "2023-02-22T21:35:52Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Somehow, people took from this that I didn’t know the Onion was satire. But that wasn’t the point. All I was saying was that it’s pretty common to get fired if you diss your company in public while making it clear your are associated with the company, It happens all the time. It wasn’t a direct rebuttal to obvious satire, just something I wanted to point out.

Up next, a reading of A Modest Proposal, followed by a TEDTalk from **Sam Stone** on how cannibalism is bad, actually.

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**Author:** ![teelabrown](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teelabrown/32/8412_2.png) [@teelabrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teelabrown)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3356 "2023-02-22T21:44:03Z")

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I’m reading elsewhere that Russian bots are posting recruitment videos on Twitter from the Wagner Group, aimed at American vets. And that Twitter won’t take them down.

Anyone see any?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3357 "2023-02-22T21:44:09Z")

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Edited… off topic.

My response can be found here:

> [@A serious question for Sam Stone on Factual Errors](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/624):
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> From: My response: Sam, I discussed partnering with you as a cohost to participate in the FOTR podcast via multiple PM’s. You literally were offered a platform in which you had greater control over content, presentation, and yes, feedback than here at the SDMB to present your ideas, free of attack/response/other by everyone excepting your cohost. Your cohost would have been a professional who knows how to work with people, talk about shit, and is not interested in going through all the work …

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3358 "2023-02-22T21:47:55Z")

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Quadrupling down. Wow. Good luck with that.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3359 "2023-02-22T21:52:14Z")

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It’s tuples all the way down!

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3360 "2023-02-22T22:07:57Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> > [@Riemann](#):
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> > No, your brag was _not_ enhanced by sneaking in a spurious claim that the 21st century didn’t begin until 2001.
> 
> Ooooooh, that does it Pistols at dawn!

Now, now, @Kimstu, you should eschew violence in favor of nonviolent protest, just like Ghandi and Marten Luthier King.

\<ducks and flees, grinning\>

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**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3361 "2023-02-22T22:35:35Z")

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[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fplq60caIAEZ6Tu?format=jpg&name=large) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fplq60caIAEZ6Tu?format=jpg&name=large)

Looking forward to this totally reliable promise which is 100% not a bald faced lie and a totally accurate understanding of how open source works!

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**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3362 "2023-02-22T22:49:23Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> If Elon Musk successfully kills the scourge that is social media, I would declare him a genius and savior of humanity. He would be the greatest hero of the modern era.

I have said in the past if Musk had bought Twitter only to immediately shut it down I would at least grudgingly respect him for that. This death by a thousand cuts under the guise of “fixing” Twitter is worse by every metric.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3363 "2023-02-22T23:20:12Z")

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Oh Jesus, Elmo and Derek Smart having a twit together. I’m not sure which one to be more cringed out by, which one is more narcissistic, or which one holds the record for the most time spent trying to puff themselves up on social media instead of doing their damn job.

Oh yeah, just as a reminder, wasn’t Elmo going to step down as Twitter’s CEO? Anyone want to take bets on which will take longer, Elmo stepping down or the time it took for Battlecruiser 3000 to be released in a working state?

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