# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3384 "2023-02-24T07:05:41Z")

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WSOAIT? (What Stage of Agile Is This?)

> On Wednesday, Twitter employees had the tech equivalent of a snow day: the company’s Slack instance was down for “routine maintenance,” they were told, and the company was implementing a deployment freeze as a result.

> But **Platformer** can now confirm that Slack wasn’t down for “routine maintenance.” “There is no such thing as routine maintenance. That’s bullshit,” a current Slack employee told us.

> In this as in[so many other things](https://www.wsj.com/articles/under-elon-musk-twitter-faces-suits-claiming-over-14-million-in-unpaid-bills-484d8bc4), Twitter hasn’t paid its Slack bill. But that’s not why Slack went down: someone at Twitter manually shut off access, we’re told. **Platformer** was not able to learn the reason prior to publication, though the move suggests Musk may have turned against the communication app — or at least wants to see if Twitter can run without Slack and the expenses associated with it.

Although later down in the article, there is this choice quote

> “We didn’t pay our Slack bill,” one employee wrote. “Now everyone is barely working. Penny wise, pound foolish.” Another worker called the disappearance of Slack the “proverbial final straw.” “Oddly enough, it’s the Slack deactivation that has pushed me to finally start applying to get out,” they wrote.

Which is a very “I can excuse all the hate speech but I draw the line at my tools being touched” kind of sentiment.

> **[New cracks emerge in Elon Musk's Twitter](https://www.platformer.news/p/new-cracks-emerge-in-elon-musks-twitter)**
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> Jira went down, Slack's gone, and site performance is degraded. What's next?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3385 "2023-02-24T07:58:53Z")

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I’m sure we’ll start hearing about other companies abandoning Slack now that the God-king has shown us its unnecessary for a successful and agile business.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3386 "2023-02-24T11:52:41Z")

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In the spirit of Sam, a fellow non-Elon-Musk-fan, I’ll just link you to [this cite](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slacktivism) that demonstrates how Slack is run by a bunch of leftwing activists.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3387 "2023-02-24T14:31:00Z")

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I have to manually refresh my feed every time. Keeps my fingers Agile!

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3388 "2023-02-24T14:45:50Z")

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That’s a shitty link. Or maybe a great one. I didn’t read it but I definitely have opinions.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3389 "2023-02-24T14:46:58Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> That’s a shitty link.

Is there a problem with my link? Does it not say what I claimed it said? Maybe so, but that just strengthens my point. Also, quit picking on me, you Maoist tyrant!

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3390 "2023-02-24T14:52:54Z")

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Whatever happened to the story that the rent on Twitter offices in San Francisco, Seattle and elsewhere was going unpaid? Are the landlords pursuing the company for non-payment?

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3391 "2023-02-24T15:03:28Z")

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Yup

[https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-24/twitter-sued-over-failure-to-pay-rent-on-san-francisco-hq](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-24/twitter-sued-over-failure-to-pay-rent-on-san-francisco-hq)

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3392 "2023-02-24T15:14:27Z")

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So all this time, the real secret to being rich is to never pay your bills?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3393 "2023-02-24T15:15:40Z")

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:scoffs:

One mans unpaid bills is another mans cash flow management…

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3394 "2023-02-24T15:20:31Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> real secret to being rich is to never pay your bills?

According to Bill Gates on the Simpsons “I didn’t get rich by writing a lot of checks.”

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/H27rfr59RiE/maxresdefault.jpg "Homer Simpson and Bill Gates buy out") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H27rfr59RiE)

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3395 "2023-02-24T17:51:25Z")

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I can think of at least one other prominent “rich guy” with this rep.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3396 "2023-02-24T18:03:57Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Whatever happened to the story that the rent on Twitter offices in San Francisco, Seattle and elsewhere was going unpaid? Are the landlords pursuing the company for non-payment?

Do these offices still have twitter employees? If so, I imagine the landlords could simply change the locks, clear the building out and rent to someone else.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3397 "2023-02-24T18:11:00Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I imagine the landlords could simply change the locks, clear the building out and rent to someone else.

Not to harsh your buzz, but I imagine that there are robust legal protections in place for renters, even corporate ones, and that such a thing would not be “simple” (or quick) at all.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3398 "2023-02-24T18:14:25Z")

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Even if the offices are empty, that doesn’t mean you can just stop paying rent.

If they have a lease, which it’s fairly certain they do, then they would have to continue paying until the end of the lease, or pay out if there is an early termination clause.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3399 "2023-02-24T18:24:19Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> Not to harsh your buzz, but I imagine that there are robust legal protections in place for renters, even corporate ones, and that such a thing would not be “simple” (or quick) at all.

How about if the landlord put up a large billboard in the cities, with wording to the effect of “Twitter has stiffed us for rent for XX days” Every day, someone could go and change the number. Billboard could be on a major commuting route.

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3400 "2023-02-24T18:32:29Z")

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I mean, sure … ?

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3401 "2023-02-24T18:33:22Z")

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Even better, they could tweet it.

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3402 "2023-02-24T20:15:43Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> How about if the landlord put up a large billboard in the cities, with wording to the effect of “Twitter has stiffed us for rent for XX days”

That sort of thing costs the money you don’t have when Twitter won’t pay you.

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3403 "2023-02-24T20:20:16Z")

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Elmo is now begging people to unblock him.

> <https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1629201852968452097>

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