# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 189
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3764 "2023-03-10T20:23:11Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > It’s the sort of faux ‘balance’ I thought we had gotten past over the last several years of gaslighting by the right. Eh, we’ve learned to recognize it and call it out for what it is. It doesn’t seem to stop them from using it as a tactic though, and now they whine about people being mean to them for calling them out on it. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3765 "2023-03-10T23:06:33Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Musk was the smartest person on Earth when the left thought he was part of their tribe. He only became a moron when he dared to step off the reservation. I had little-to-no thoughts, at all, about Elon Musk prior to his “Look at how bad I am at Twitter!” antics. Now I think he’s an asshole, and at the very least white-supremacy-adjacent, _based on his fucking public actions and statements_. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3766 "2023-03-11T00:35:43Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Musk was the smartest person on Earth when the left thought he was part of their tribe. He only became a moron when he dared to step off the reservation. The funny thing about this thread is that it started several months before Elmo declared he was a Republican now. > [@BigT](#): > > Pretty garbage article to me. Musk is not a “brilliant” anything. The only problems Twitter has are ones that require more moderation, not less. Trump coming back is not “interesting,” it’s horrible for our country that we still haven’t taken down someone who attempted a fascist self-coup. He claims Musk loves Twitter when all signs show that his purchases was motivated by being pissed off by Twitter. He mentions that abuse will become more common, but has that under the “interesting” trait he claims is positive > [@GIGObuster](#): > > Hey! It takes talent to cause Tesla to lose $126 Billion. /s > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > If I was a Tesla shareholder, I’d be pissed that the CEO is distracting himself with a much smaller, completely unrelated company. > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Honestly, I get the impression that Elon Musk is the world’s richest troll. He just says and does stuff to get attention. > [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > I’m morally certain you’ve put more thought into this than Elon Musk has. Elon just wants to troll people for the yucks and get free advertising;buying Twitter is, in his mind, a way of ‘owning the cow’ and removing the constraints preventing his legion of followers from shouting down anyone to says bad, bad things about their demigod. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3767 "2023-03-11T00:37:08Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The funny thing about this thread is that it started several months before Elmo declared he was a Republican now. Evidence isn’t Sam’s strong point. (see this time I’m ‘attacking’ you, Sam) ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3768 "2023-03-11T00:53:39Z")
Har! It’s the exact opposite really. Chumps like you only started really caping up for him when you saw he was trying to trigger liberals. Any mild criticism of your new God gets you running in here hyperventilating. I mean objecting to the hyperbole that’s he’s the greatest rocket scientist the world has ever seen or that he’s the greatest thing to happen to Africa initiates a several paragraph meltdown in weird little nerds like you. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3769 "2023-03-11T01:14:15Z")
A timeline of this liberal’s perception of Elon. 1. White noise. 2. The guy whose company was selling flamethrowers. 3. White noise. 4. The Tesla guy. 5. White noise. 6. The guy who called another guy a ‘pedo guy’ because he was feeling insecure. 7. White noise, but now the racist kind instead of the static kind. ---
**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3770 "2023-03-11T02:04:06Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Musk was the smartest person on Earth when the left thought he was part of their tribe. He only became a moron when he dared to step off the reservation. FWIW, I started hating him when he refused to consider to increase the albedo of the starlink satellites that were fucking up astronomical imaging from Earth. For a guy who wanted to explore our solar system through SpaceX, build a greener world with Tesla and wanted to make a better, more connected world with Starlink; it turned out his actions were actually selfish and without regard for the other ways that people want to explore, make the world better and more connected. For me that was a few years ago. Long before the current selfishness and lack of regard. Take this datum point as you will. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3771 "2023-03-11T02:47:50Z")
> [@FordPrefect](#): > > FWIW, I started hating him when he refused to consider to increase the albedo of the starlink satellites that were fucking up astronomical imaging from Earth. I have no idea where you get that from. First, they needed to decrease albedo, not increase it. SpaceX has spent a huge amount of money redesigning their satellites to have a lower albedo. Also, SpaceX actually applied to have their satellites parked in a lower orbit so they would decay in a shorter amount of time should they fail to reduce sky clutter > **[Elon Musk details some SpaceX efforts to reduce nighttime visibility of...](https://techcrunch.com/2020/04/22/elon-musk-details-some-spacex-efforts-to-reduce-nighttime-visibility-of-starlink-satellites/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNhLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAE4wV_y79jgFcA28cSPfFBZl4tUbl3M8k87ZbQ3lh8ErxH-v3KTWAftWPepRBkgQbSOfJzOwiXmf_p0fc5k0uzYu_-wTfucL5n0c1QUl5hUKBH_ZXiKniRe2dJRIyloxGZ8z7aLTKrHEF7KXDN4bf6lrvglGgFGA_BZDzhI7uJmK)** > > It's launch day for yet another batch of Starlink satellites, which will bring the total launched by SpaceX to 422. With each launch, there's renewed > **[SpaceX’s Darkened Starlink Satellite May Have Actually Worked - But It Is...](https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanocallaghan/2020/03/18/spacexs-darkened-starlink-satellite-may-have-actually-workedbut-its-still-too-bright/?sh=73d815cb45f3)** > > Initial observations suggest that SpaceX’s attempts to reduce the reflectivity of its Starlink satellites have been successful – although there is still a way to go to fully address the concerns of the astronomy community. > **[NSF and SpaceX reach agreement to reduce Starlink effects on astronomy](https://spacenews.com/nsf-and-spacex-reach-agreement-to-reduce-starlink-effects-on-astronomy/)** > > NSF has reached an agreement with SpaceX to mitigate the effects of the company’s second-generation Starlink satellites on astronomy. Also, the main effect on astronomy is in the early morning when it’s still dark on the ground but the sun is shining on overhead satellites. The main observatory affected will be the Vera Rubin observatory because it does an all-sky survey. There are methods to exclude satellite trails from those images, as it’s a problem for the VRO regardless of Starlink. In the meantime, Starlink is a massive boon to people in the 3rd world, countries without a good telecom network, and rural people everywhere. He’s done more good with Starlink than most philanthropists manage in their entire lives, and it’s just getting started. Ask the poor children in African countries who now have access to the internet for education, gig work, etc. We sponsor a child in Ethiopia. They are very excited at the possibility of getting Starlink. It will change their lives. Having astronomers throw out a few extra frames in their stack is a small price to pay for uplifting the poor of the world. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3772 "2023-03-11T03:01:30Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > He’s done more good with Starlink than most philanthropists manage in their entire lives, and it’s just getting started. This from the not a Musk fanboy. Sigh. Jesus dude, Starlink has been active in Africa for a month. In Nigeria he’s charging about 8% of monthly income (in this USA it is about 2% of monthly income). In terms of absolute cost, I guess it might be considered generous but can we hold off giving Musk a sainthood for a little while yet? I mean he did cut off Starlink to Ukraine just before a Russian offensive (what a coincidence), so I’m not sure I quite buy him as that much of a good guy. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3773 "2023-03-11T03:08:50Z")
A philanthropist charging people 8% of their monthly income for something they could be providing for free is one definition of philanthropy . . . I guess. ---
**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3774 "2023-03-11T03:27:34Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I have no idea where you get that from. First, they needed to decrease albedo, not increase it. SpaceX has spent a huge amount of money redesigning their satellites to have a lower albedo. Also, SpaceX actually applied to have their satellites parked in a lower orbit so they would decay in a shorter amount of time should they fail to reduce sky clutter Fair enough, I got the increase/decrease wrong, the article that birthed the hate in me, [Elon Musk’s Starlink satellites are interfering with astronomy. It’s just the beginning. - Vox](https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/1/7/21003272/space-x-starlink-astronomy-light-pollution) > [@](#): > > Having astronomers throw out a few extra frames in their stack is a small price to pay for uplifting the poor of the world. Fine, I’ll be out on the porch, since you are already up on the cross. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3775 "2023-03-11T04:42:26Z")
Oh when Africa hasn’t emerged as world power in five years, the Musk fan boys will get to go back to their favorite race realism schtick. “They couldn’t even succeed when given gifts from our benevolent agile rocket programming God”. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3776 "2023-03-11T04:48:13Z")
Elmo is pro-insurrectionist now. > **[Elon Musk tweets support for QAnon Shaman Jacob Chansley ｜ New York Daily News](https://nordot.app/1007125584850370560?c=592622757532812385)** > > Twitter owner Elon Musk expressed support for “QAnon Shaman” Jacob Chansley, based on disinformation being peddled by Fox News commentator and conspiracy theorist Tucker Carlson. “Free Jacob Chansley,” Musk tweeted Friday night. Chansley was... ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3777 "2023-03-11T05:44:08Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The left has a more totalitarian mindset. You must agree with them on _everything_ or you are excommunicated. My irony meter just exploded. This is a comical example of the aphorism “every accusation is a confession “ ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3778 "2023-03-11T05:58:28Z")
Is this an appropriate time to remind the board that Sam is our resident George Santos, caught blatantly lying over and over and over again? ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3779 "2023-03-11T07:56:01Z")
Not that it isn’t earned and all, but you’re elevating SS to Octo levels by letting him make the thread all about him. Take it to his thread, or just ignore him. He’s intellectually dishonest, that discussion has been done in his thread repeatedly. He isn’t going to fix it here. If SS wants to disregard facts and build a legion of strawmen to white knight for the Muskrat, there’s nothing we can do. He is immune to facts, shame, and as quoted upthread, unwilling to ever own up to his own damn statements. All you’re doing is cluttering up the thread and feeding his martyr complex. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3780 "2023-03-11T11:58:44Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > He is immune to facts, shame, and as quoted upthread, unwilling to ever own up to his own damn statements. I like how you looped everything back to Musk with this comment. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3781 "2023-03-11T12:04:10Z")
And so quickly! So efficiently! A hyperloop, if you will. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3782 "2023-03-11T12:05:11Z")
One might say that Sam is Boring Company? ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/3783 "2023-03-11T13:33:49Z")
> **[Tesla's Cybertruck sales predictions may be too optimistic - Autoblog](https://www.autoblog.com/2023/03/10/tesla-cybertruck-sales-predictions-morgan-stanley/)** > > Morgan Stanley researchers predict the Tesla Cybertruck may be an enthusiast cult car, but could be too out there for mainstream appeal. Who knows is Morgan Stanley is right or now? Certainly, a lot of Musk fanboys will buy a Cybertruck, but I have to agree, I just don’t see mainstream truck purchasers getting a Cybertruck. Now when you can get an electric Ford Lighting (for example). So many people own a Ford F-150, if they were going to switch to an electric truck the Ford Lighting seems more likely. TSLA is still _vastly_ overpriced. It has a PE ratio of 44, compared to Apple’s 22 or Toyota’s 9.1. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=188) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=190)