# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 205
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4084 "2023-04-04T22:11:52Z")
Hmm… 88k Teslas in inventory, what to do, what to do. I got it! The Vegas Loop uses 70 Teslas, so all Elmo has to do is find 1,257 more locales stupid enough to replicate his grift I mean success there! ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4085 "2023-04-04T22:20:05Z")
Buy a Tesla, get the blue check! Agile thinking. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4086 "2023-04-04T22:27:56Z")
> **[Germany accuses Twitter of failing to remove illegal hate speech](https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/04/twitter-netzdg-germany/)** > > In an early FAFO test for Elon Musk, Germany could be set to fine Twitter for repeatedly failing to comply with its social media hate speech takedown law. A few 50 million Euro fines will certainly help Twitter’s bottom line. Not that they’ve fined him yet, but I hope they nail his ass to the wall. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4087 "2023-04-04T23:08:42Z")
Musk’s personal brand is becoming toxic to big swaths of customers. A couple of years ago I would have seriously considered a Tesla if I was in the market for a new car. Now there’s no way I’d consider a Tesla. I doubt I’m the only one. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4088 "2023-04-05T00:02:04Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > A couple of years ago I would have seriously considered a Tesla if I was in the market for a new car. Now there’s no way I’d consider a Tesla. Not that long ago, “Tesla” was synonymous with “electric vehicle”. These days there are a lot more choices. I had it a life goal to someday own a Tesla. I’ve changed that to some other vehicle I can charge and drive. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4089 "2023-04-05T00:08:04Z")
I’m an environmentalist, but honestly, I wanted to own another Jaguar. LOL Now I don’t even want to own any car. Although I would love to have one of these (ignoring costs, environment, etc.) [https://www.musclecarfacts.com/plymouth-gtx/44-1967-gtx/](https://www.musclecarfacts.com/plymouth-gtx/44-1967-gtx/) ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4090 "2023-04-05T00:17:17Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Buy a Tesla, get the blue check! Pay for a blue check, get a Tesla! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4091 "2023-04-05T01:11:07Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > Although I would love to have one of these (ignoring costs, environment, etc.) Reminds me of the '67 Impala “Baby” from _Supernatural_. [![](https://carsguide-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy,q_auto,t_cg_hero_large/v1/editorial/story/hero_image/Supernatural-impala-1001x565p.jpg) ](https://carsguide-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy,q_auto,t_cg_hero_large/v1/editorial/story/hero_image/Supernatural-impala-1001x565p.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4092 "2023-04-05T01:12:51Z")
That’s a nice car too ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4093 "2023-04-05T01:18:11Z")
> [@ralfy](#): > > The company lost $3 billion before Musk took over, and was losing every year except for two. The main cause was very high costs I posted 2 years of 10K reports in this thread which showed absolutely nothing of the sort. Twitter was a company which broke even, at worst. Primary citations always rule. > [@JohnT](#): > > The first highlighted line shows that, once everything is accounted for, Twitter is cash positive from operations. The bottom line shows that once investments and financing activities are accounted for, Twitter’s cash position has increased by $200 million a year for the past 2 years. > > So… in conclusion, Twitter is an average company. Not very profitable, not burdened with losses or debt, it could have kept chugging along with no need of a savior. In some ways, it reminds me of 1975-era AMC (American Motors Corporation) - the smallest of an near-monopolistic market, they survived by offering products (the Rambler, the Jeep) which filled niches ignored by the larger companies (GM, Ford, Chrysler). > > It surely wasn’t worth $54 a share - the Statement of Equity (below) has a book value of $9.125 - and I don’t think this company is positioned as to lose 80% of its workforce and still keep operating under the same financial structure. I mean, the balance sheet now has an additional $13 billion of debt added on to it! There goes the shareholder’s equity, once a positive $7 billion now a negative $6 billion! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4094 "2023-04-05T01:19:20Z")
Oops! > **[Elon Musk loses his position atop Forbes' annual billionaires list | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/04/business/elon-musk-forbes-billionaire-list/index.html?utm_term=link&utm_medium=social&utm_content=2023-04-04T16%3A00%3A18&utm_source=twCNN)** > > Elon Musk has officially been dethroned from the top of Forbes' annual "World's Billionaire's List." ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4095 "2023-04-05T01:42:31Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > A couple of years ago I would have seriously considered a Tesla if I was in the market for a new car. Now there’s no way I’d consider a Tesla. I doubt I’m the only one. No, you’re not the only one. I actually had a $1000 deposit on a Tesla. Got my money back on that, thank God. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4096 "2023-04-05T13:19:32Z")
Hey, @ralfy, you posted something which was entirely untrue, a complete fabrication. I’m interested in what source you got that “Twitter lost $3b before Musk took over” citation so I know to avoid them. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4097 "2023-04-05T13:54:00Z")
Given that he just posts bare links to suspect sources and never comes back to address them, I’d doubt he’ll be back to answer. In this case, I suppose that rather than posting the link, he just cut and pasted the lie. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4098 "2023-04-05T16:07:43Z")
Give Sam credit, he at least tries to discuss his BS sometimes. Vault Boy just drops a turd and skips away. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4099 "2023-04-05T16:09:30Z")
You know, I was thinking the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4100 "2023-04-05T17:06:24Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I had it a life goal to someday own a Tesla. I’ve changed that to some other vehicle I can charge and drive. Someone I know used to be a big Tesla enthusiast, but has soured on them over several problems with his. The latest is the failure of a chip in his battery (a sub-$100 part) where there is no option for repair and he is being forced to make a $15,000 full battery replacement. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4101 "2023-04-05T18:47:41Z")
Agile spare parts profiteering! ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4102 "2023-04-05T19:29:37Z")
> **[Elon Musk Tweet Broke Federal Labor Laws, US Court Rules](https://www.pcmag.com/news/elon-musk-tweet-broke-federal-labor-laws-us-court-rules?ta)** > > The 5th Circuit US Court of Appeals rules Musk broke federal labor laws by tweeting that Tesla workers would lose stock trading options if they joined a union. I really wish the fines were much, much, much worse for this kind of behaviour. It shouldn’t be a minor speedbump. It should be crippling. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4103 "2023-04-06T14:33:38Z")
Adds state media to NPR, stop policing Russian and Chinese state media (according to Semafor, I have no idea how reliable they are so pinch of salt). Hmmm… I’m starting to think that maybe Musk might be pro-authoritarianism. ☹ But the Muskrats will still love him, after all he is their God. > **[Twitter is no longer policing Russian and Chinese state-backed media | Semafor](https://www.semafor.com/article/04/05/2023/twitter-falls-short-in-policing-russian-and-chinese-state-backed-media)** > > The social media site appears to no longer be enforcing its own policies designed to limit the influence of government propaganda. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=204) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=206)