# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 206
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4104 "2023-04-06T22:41:33Z")
> Agile fourth-grade humor! Also, Tesla is launching its own brand of beer, because nothing goes better together than cars and alcohol, right? > **[Elon Musk launches new Tesla-themed beer in a CyberTruck bottle | Boing Boing](https://boingboing.net/2023/04/06/elon-musk-launches-new-tesla-themed-beer-in-a-cybertruck-bottle.html)** > > From the Tesla website: Tesla GigaBier is designed to emulate the form of Cybertruck while honoring the 500-year tradition of German Reinheitsgebot beermaking. Enjoy this limited edition pilsner-st… ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4105 "2023-04-06T23:38:30Z")
Meh, let me know when he starts wearing Kleenex boxes as shoes… > **[The Tragic Real-Life Story Of Howard Hughes - Grunge](https://www.grunge.com/186106/the-tragic-real-life-story-of-howard-hughes/)** > > Howard Hughes packed a lot into his life. To say Hughes was an ambitious eccentric is an understatement. Here's the tragic real-life story of Howard Hughes. > while living at the Beverly Hills Hotel, he became obsessed with flies and would hire people to work 8-hour shifts just to attempt to keep the insects away from him. Hughes would sit in his room naked, sometimes wearing a Kleenex diaper, with Kleenex boxes on his feet, battling flies and fixating on germs. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4106 "2023-04-06T23:48:47Z")
’ Huh, that’s ridiculous! Wearing Puff’s Plus boxes on your feet is the FUTURE!!!’ ~ Elon ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4107 "2023-04-06T23:58:48Z")
I see that Elmo got bored with the Shiba Inu Dogecoin logo and Twitter is back to using the bird again. We can only hope that he also gets bored with pretending to run Twitter and, in the pretext of “keeping his promise”, delegates running it to someone who knows what they’re doing while he dedicates himself to establishing colonies on Mars and Uranus. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4108 "2023-04-07T03:11:36Z")
_checks_ Oh, good. I was sick of that stupid dog after the first time I saw it. That boy ain’t right. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4109 "2023-04-07T03:31:01Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I see that Elmo got bored with the Shiba Inu Dogecoin logo and Twitter is back to using the bird again. We can only hope that he also gets bored with pretending to run Twitter and, in the pretext of “keeping his promise”, delegates running it to someone who knows what they’re doing while he dedicates himself to establishing colonies on Mars and Uranus. My personal guess is that he’s banking on people being cheap and easy to attract, by being deliberately provocative. Attention = Clicks Clicks = Views Views = Money He’s trolling and most of this thread is just people feeding the troll with delicious, delicious cash money. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4110 "2023-04-07T03:42:00Z")
If you’re having advertiser problems, then views don’t really equal money. There’s no 4D chess game going on. The guy just is a troll, and has essentially been given permission to be his troll self. Before he had an image to maintain. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4111 "2023-04-07T05:42:49Z")
Turns out Elmo also can’t figure out how to take checkmarks away from Twitter Blue subscribers who cancel. > **[Twitter users who canceled paid verification still have check marks](https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/twitter-blue-check-mark-elon-musk-still-verified-cancelation-rcna78010)** > > Twitter has failed to remove blue checks from legacy verified users and lapsed Twitter Blue subscribers. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4112 "2023-04-07T14:08:41Z")
Agile pissing off the users! > > > ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4113 "2023-04-07T14:22:50Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > If you’re having advertiser problems, then views don’t really equal money. Precisely. The theory that all publicity is good publicity so everyone should ignore Elon and stop saying bad things about him ignores how much that bad publicity is affecting Twitter. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4114 "2023-04-07T14:24:13Z")
Anyone have an explanation or a theory wherher this is some kind of bizzare hatred of Substack or just another unintentional technical screw-up? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4115 "2023-04-07T14:29:15Z")
Substack announced a Twitter-esque extension of their platform yesterday (called “Notes”) and this is the result. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4116 "2023-04-07T16:06:30Z")
Ah. Agile childishness. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4117 "2023-04-07T17:12:48Z")
I seriously don’t understand why anyone is still using Twitter. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4118 "2023-04-07T17:22:47Z")
It’s still all the news sources, plus a handful of journalists, all curated into one place for me. I will say that I’ve cut who I follow down from about 600 to about 300 in the last few months. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4119 "2023-04-07T17:37:53Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > If you’re having advertiser problems, then views don’t really equal money. Eventually, it does. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4120 "2023-04-07T17:46:31Z")
As much as I hate to quote Dilbert these days, this does remind me of the strip where he pointed out that they were losing money on every unit shipped, but was reassured that they would make up for it in volume. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4121 "2023-04-07T17:58:01Z")
That’s bad math. Mine is cynicism. Did companies refrain from sending money to politicians who supported the Jan 6 rioters, the false electors scheme, etc.? Yes they did. And then they started sending the money again because you need some politicians in your pocket. If there’s a discount for advertising on Twitter, because of negative press, and tens of millions of customers just sitting there not being advertised to, at some point businesses are going to resume advertising. Musk just needs to keep getting the free exposure to keep people thinking about Twitter and using Twitter. So far, he’s being very successful at doing that. He just needs to maintain it for a long enough period to start making advertisers nervous about all the money they’re avoiding. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4122 "2023-04-07T18:14:58Z")
So, what you meant to say wasn’t, “Eventually, it does”, but, “In my opinion they will not continue to have advertiser problems?” > [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > So far, he’s being very successful at doing that. He just needs to maintain it for a long enough period to start making advertisers nervous about all the money they’re avoiding. Or until the bulk of the users migrate to a different platform. You think that advertisers are more nervous about “all the money they’re avoiding”, or more nervous about their adds showing up sponsoring hate speech or child porn? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4123 "2023-04-07T18:36:13Z")
@Sage_Rat, there’s no reason to think the advertisers aren’t already doing what they think is most profitable. They think that the damage from Twitter’s mistakes (including Musk’s trolling) is worse than they’d get from advertising. For them to believe they are losing profit, it would seem Twitter would need to change. In short, there’s no reason to think that advertisers’ current actions are “avoiding money.” They’re doing what they think will make more money for their companies. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=205) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=207)