# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 229
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4564 "2023-04-28T23:15:30Z")
Countdown to another complaint about all the “mean girls” starts . . . NOW! ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4565 "2023-04-29T01:18:49Z")
> **[A Twitter User Threatened To Kill Obama. Musk’s Safety Team Let Him Keep...](https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2023/04/28/twitter-user-threatens-to-kill-obama-twitter-lets-him-tweet-on/)** > > A former employee says the user would have been immediately banned for life in the pre-Musk Twitter era. Meanwhile, it appears Musk is failing to execute his own rules on death threats. > …The threats were serious enough for a senior Secret Service agent to investigate. He contacted Twitter to get subscriber data on the user in February. After the investigator obtained the tweeter’s phone number, he spoke to the man, who admitted to making threats towards President Obama. > > Despite the possible danger to a former president, and Twitter’s knowledge of the offending tweets, the user remains online today… ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4566 "2023-04-29T01:39:22Z")
But you’re banned from Twitter if you dare to mention publicly available information from FAA-mandated transmissions about where Elmo’s private jet is currently located. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4567 "2023-04-29T02:15:08Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Sam, you realize you’ve been caught lying over and over again, to the point that it’s just boring and that’s your entire identity. Name them. And let’s distinguish ‘lies’ from ‘we disagree, and told you you are wrong, so if you keep sayingnit, it’s a lie’. Cites, please. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4568 "2023-04-29T02:34:40Z")
Allow me to introduce Maserschmidt’s Law: As an SDMB discussion grows longer, the probability of people posting about Sam being a liar approaches one. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4569 "2023-04-29T02:36:07Z")
Take it to the Sam thread maybe? > [@A serious question for Sam Stone on Factual Errors](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881): > > This is a 100% serious question. I’m a scientist. This means I’m wrong a lot. Such is the nature of science. However, when I’m wrong I adjust my belief state accordingly. In other words, when I’m shown to be wrong, especially factually, I accept that I’m wrong, adjust and move on. You make a lot of factual errors on this site. I’m not going to list them. If you don’t see them, then perhaps that answers my question. What goes through your mind when a factual error is pointed out to you? Do you a… ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4570 "2023-04-29T02:38:24Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Name them. It doesn’t matter because they’ve been shoved in your face OVER and OVER again. But okay, fine. How about here for starters, where you got caught, I called you out, and you ignored it? > [@A serious question for Sam Stone on Factual Errors](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/272): > > See, you are a liar Sam. That isn’t true. There were not “reports from multiple news media” about it. There were tabloid stories and social media posts. That’s it. We looked for other reports. We looked for exactly what you are talking about, and couldn’t find them. Hence the skepticism. Again, you are a liar. Look at what I said. I was pretty careful to express that I was not going to say it was false, just that I was careful to believe it. That was because I didn’t have enough t… Same thread: > [@A serious question for Sam Stone on Factual Errors](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/630): > > And Sam is caught yet again in a blatant lie. @Sam_Stone how do you explain this? You claim… Yet you clearly said that you were referring to a specific case where employees were insulting their employer in public. You are not being bullied by people who disagree with your viewpoint. You are a serial liar on these boards and people are fed up with it. You not only have trouble with facts, you have trouble with honesty. So yeah, people on a forum devoted to fighting ignorance are going t… Those are just a couple of lies I caught you on in one thread. It’s the tip of the iceberg. You’re pathological. It’s like watching Dahmer criticize somebody’s diet. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4571 "2023-04-29T02:41:06Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > Take it to the Sam thread maybe? For the sake of posterity, I think it’s critical to remind anyone reading of the shit he’s pulled. And this is the Pit, it’s the place for it. Musk’s biggest sycophant on this board deserves a bit of attention to point out the context of his posts in the Pit thread on Musk. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4572 "2023-04-29T02:44:40Z")
lol posterity, this thread is approaching 5000 posts, and I promise you nobody is ever coming back and reading the whole thing. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4573 "2023-04-29T02:56:02Z")
My bubble has been burst. 😢 ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4574 "2023-04-29T02:57:18Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@squeegee](#): > > > > Take it to the Sam thread maybe? ⁢ > > For the sake of posterity, I think it’s critical to remind anyone reading of the shit he’s pulled. And this is the Pit, it’s the place for it. > > Musk’s biggest sycophant on this board deserves a bit of attention to point out the context of his posts in the Pit thread on Musk. ⁢ Yeah, but he’s just getting riled up because Chingon was getting a little jab in. And then you’re getting riled up because he got riled up. I think the thread was going pretty well before all that. Sam had backed off his more outrageous claims, and was letting us get in swipes on Musk without having to defend him. It’s nice when the thread stays on topic, is all. Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4575 "2023-04-29T02:57:46Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > To be fair, at least he admits that lying makes him look bad. He could be lying about that. He may actually think getting caught lying makes him look better. In which case lying about lying is cruise control to cool. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4576 "2023-04-29T06:00:28Z")
Yersh, just forget this hijack. I dropped in here to drop an actual factual link about what Musk is up to, without making any judgments whatsoever other than I thought it was doubtful to work. And as usual, I got dragged into another cesspool. Go back to your Musk dragging. I’ll stay out. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4577 "2023-04-29T12:06:31Z")
Maybe you want this discussion? > [@Now that Musk bought Twitter -- Breaking News only](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737): > > Well, the IMHO thread kept heading off the rails, and is now in the pit. But I think there’s interest in just following what’s happening to Twitter. Layoffs? Hardcore-only? More traffic? Fewer advertisers? New/broken features? Post about it here. Then go to the pit thread if you feel the need to vent. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4578 "2023-04-29T12:16:03Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > It’s like watching Dahmer criticize somebody’s diet. Even cannibals gotta watch the carbs. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4579 "2023-04-29T14:41:59Z")
So last night I sit down for my weekly dose of _Real Time with Bill Maher_, because it’s Friday and it’s what I do on Friday. And his guest for the one-on-one interview at the start of the show turns out to be none other than our beloved Elmo. That interview shifted my world-view a bit. No, it did not in the slightest change the contempt with which I regard Elmo. It did, however, give me one more thing to dislike about Maher. I’ve spent time on this board defending Maher and I still think he’s a net positive, but his fawning over Elmo was pathetic. I mean, a host should be reasonably respectful of their guests or they soon wouldn’t have any guests, but Maher is just an over-the-top fanboi and has said as much before. For his part, Elmo droned on about how he’s not at all a conservative (just look at how he’s single-handedly saving the environment!) and about the incredible importance of free speech. Funny how Elmo forgot to mention how he banned mainstream journalists from Twitter, or drove away respected public broadcasters like NPR and CBC by falsely labeling them “state media”. Also, incidentally, things are going incredibly well at Twitter now that Elmo, in his genius, saved it from bankruptcy and restored Free Speech. At least, according to Elmo. Elmo is an oblivious, shameless hypocrite and first-rate asshole and he proves it every time he opens his mouth. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4580 "2023-04-29T14:54:56Z")
At best, the co-founder of PayPal is trying to make lightning strike twice in the same place. At worst, the co-founder of PayPal and founder (I assume?) of Space-X and Tesla is floundering on his new acquisition and is desperately casting to his past to see if he can make shinola out of shit. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4581 "2023-04-29T15:02:29Z")
Oh, I have no doubt that it can be worse than that. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4582 "2023-04-29T15:43:42Z")
I am of a generous mood this beautiful San Antonio morn. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4583 "2023-04-29T16:04:49Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > It did, however, give me one more thing to dislike about Maher. I’ve spent time on this board defending Maher and I still think he’s a net positive, but his fawning over Elmo was pathetic. I mean, a host should be reasonably respectful of their guests or they soon wouldn’t have any guests, but Maher is just an over-the-top fanboi and has said as much before. I felt the same way. Not a single tough question, or a challenge to his behavior as owner of twitter, and a lot of other things. People are complicated, I get that. Musk isn’t all bad, but nor is he the perfect techogenius. With most guests, Maher can say “I admire this about you, but you lose me when you say that.” He couldn’t do that with Musk for some reason. Musk came across as inarticulate and as a noncritical consumer of a lot of right wing talking points. I don’t believe, for example, that the only thing high school students in the Bay Area were taught about George Washington was that he was a slave owner. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=228) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=230)