# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 238
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4744 "2023-05-13T18:25:21Z")
Ah, so WEF is the new boogieman the right is irrationally terrified of. Funny stuff, it’s always amusing when a conspiratorialist is trigged into a paranoid rant like that. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4745 "2023-05-13T18:26:03Z")
It’s the new wink wink way to complain about a certain religious group. Basically Protocols stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4746 "2023-05-13T18:29:28Z")
I know. I’m sure that’s his main interest in the WEF. But the WEF also gets people like the Pfizer chairman talking about implanting vax identification in RFID chips under the skin. “Think of the compliance!” Canada’s failed ‘ArriveCAN’ vaccine passport aystem was done as a pilot for a WEF global citizenship ID and vax passport system. It caused nightmares for Canadian travelers before being cancelled, and consumed a lot of taxpayer money. And if the WEF succeeds in its mission to rid the world of nitrogen fertilizer, they’ll cause a mass famine. The WEF is not harmless. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4747 "2023-05-13T18:32:57Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Hey, remember when Cecil was saying Canada will win from global warming because of all the new agriculture? Remember when Cecil was taken to task over that, as not only was he wrong, but even if he had been right, it would have been a small consolation prize with the vast majority of humanity suffering? > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The WEF wants to shut that down. Good. Anyone who is _pro_ climate change is an enemy of humanity. > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The government of the Netherlands, in accordance with a WEF plan wants to confiscate thousands of farms and shut them down because nitrogen fertilizer is bad. Remember when you were shown how wrong you were on this assertion? > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Trudeau is making noises about going after Canadian farmers, Heh, cite? > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The WEF wants global digital currencies, global vax passports, government factory farming in ‘farm innovation centers’ instead of private farming, etc. They are cool with social credit scores and governments using them to control behaviour of citizens. They are all for censorship and narrative framing over facts. Hehe, it’s amazing what you can learn when you pretend to read minds. > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Other than that, they are pretty good at generating CO2. The annual meeting at Davos sees thousands of private jets fly in, filled with people so concerned about climate change they likely cry into their flown-in truffles at the banquets before they fly home in their Gulfstreams. And of course, the inevitable charge of hypocrisy. Which, even if valid, doesn’t change the actual fact of climate change. It’s solely a distraction, which works on them and their allies, and because they are so weak minded, they think it works on everyone. So, are you still a Musk supporter, or has his decision to get in bed with such an evil organization finally made you question his skill at tree(3)d chess? It’s disingenuous rants like these that always make me start second guessing myself on any topics I agree with you on. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4748 "2023-05-13T18:38:48Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Pfizer chairman talking about implanting vax identification in RFID chips under the skin Is this fucking 1999? Are we also getting tracking chips in “our left hand and foreheads”, too? Nobody (I repeat, _nobody_) at Pfizer discussed implanting RFID chips under the skin for vaccine tracking. However, the stupid fucking anti-vaccine, right-wing fucking idiots sure shared a stupid video that was talking about RFID _labels_ on syringes that was manipulated and recut to make it seem like he was saying that they were going to do so. So, the WEF is the new Jewish New World Organization Zionist Globalist Conspiracy… blechh. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4749 "2023-05-13T18:40:41Z")
Sam, will you please stop propagating right-wing lies. Get. Better. Sources. Of. Information. The Canadian nitrogen reduction program is voluntary and to reduce run off. And I pretty sure it has come up before so you really should already know that. Overall, this isn’t something coming from the WEF, it is coming from scientists. > **[WWF\_Comprehensive\_Approach\_Nitrogen\_Full\_Technical\_Report.pdf](https://www.wwf.org.uk/sites/default/files/2022-02/WWF_Comprehensive_Approach_Nitrogen_Full_Technical_Report.pdf)** > > 5.67 MB [https://scholar.google.ca/scholar?hl=en&as\_sdt=0%2C5&q=nitrogen+fertilizer+reduction&btnG=&oq=nitrogen+fertilizer+redu](https://scholar.google.ca/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=nitrogen+fertilizer+reduction&btnG=&oq=nitrogen+fertilizer+redu) ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4750 "2023-05-13T18:41:28Z")
> [@Kron](#): > > Nobody (I repeat, _nobody_) at Pfizer discussed implanting RFID chips under the skin for vaccine tracking. However, the stupid fucking anti-vaccine, right-wing fucking idiots sure shared a stupid video that was talking about RFID _labels_ on syringes that was manipulated and recut to make it seem like he was saying that they were going to do so. Eh, to be fair, it does fit the narrative they _want_ to be true. And for them, that’s close enough to the truth for them to believe it. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4751 "2023-05-13T19:04:03Z")
I miss the early 90s when people talking about the New World Order, ZOG, black helicopters, secret plans to force the mark of the beast on everyone and running around with their buddies cosplaying as soldiers in their militias were considered fringe kooks. ---
**Author:** ![Wincerind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@Wincerind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wincerind)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4752 "2023-05-13T19:06:59Z")
Could you provide a cite for this statement about the Netherlands? I live there and it is total fantasy. Total and utter nonsense. Not even a faint glimmer of truth on the horizon. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4753 "2023-05-13T19:08:44Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The Netherlands provides the majority of food to Europe Go on, I’ll bite. Cite? j ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4754 "2023-05-13T19:12:10Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > the Pfizer chairman talking about implanting vax identification in RFID chips under the skin Did he happen to mention the significance of gold-fringed flags, too? > [@Dissonance](#): > > I miss the early 90s when people talking about the New World Order, ZOG, black helicopters, secret plans to force the mark of the beast on everyone and running around with their buddies cosplaying as soldiers in their militias were considered fringe kooks. Who would have thought that all they needed to do to dispel that image was come up with somewhat more sophisticated-sounding euphemisms for “Teh Jooos”. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4755 "2023-05-13T19:45:54Z")
[https://mrctv.org/videos/pfizer-ceo-wants-microchip-pills-send-signals-relevant-authorities-enforce-compliance](https://mrctv.org/videos/pfizer-ceo-wants-microchip-pills-send-signals-relevant-authorities-enforce-compliance) [https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/05/thousands-of-people-in-sweden-are-embedding-microchips-under-their-skin-to-replace-id-cards](https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/05/thousands-of-people-in-sweden-are-embedding-microchips-under-their-skin-to-replace-id-cards) The Pfizer CEO clip was from 2018, And he was talking about a pill with an embedded chip that would report back when the pill was ingested to ensure compliance. Bu the WEF is all in for implantable chips for ID and other purposes. Here’s another article from their website: [https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/08/microchip-in-your-hand-rfid-32m/](https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/08/microchip-in-your-hand-rfid-32m/) look, I’m not a conspiracy nut. Most of this stuff is just tech people talking tech. You can pay an ungodly sum to the WEF and bve a presenter and say all kinds of things the WEF does not formally support. Many on the right take this way too far. But it’s true that the WEF has ‘infiltrated’ governments through their WEF young leader program and other programs. No one elected the WEF, yet they have disproportionate power to affect many governments. Canada has been test bed for several WEF initiatives, includig digital ID and vax passports. And Canada is now looking at a digital currency - another thing the WEF promotes but which would be a huge step backwards for liberty. > [@k9bfriender](#): > > > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > > > Trudeau is making noises about going after Canadian farmers, > > Heh, cite? [NP View: Trudeau ploughs ahead with fertilizer cut, while turning a blind eye to human suffering | National Post](https://nationalpost.com/opinion/np-view-trudeau-ploughs-ahead-with-fertilizer-cut-while-turning-a-blind-eye-to-human-suffering#:~:text=Instead%20of%20addressing%20that%20problem,over%20the%20next%20eight%20years). ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4756 "2023-05-13T19:59:29Z")
Mrctv? Yikes… ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4757 "2023-05-13T20:12:05Z")
Sam is knowingly spreading antivax information. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4758 "2023-05-13T20:25:17Z")
Yeah, anyone that uses them as a source for anything but pointing out how misinformed and hateful the right wing is, I can’t take seriously. Using it as a cite? Yeah, that loses any and all credibility. (ETA: again… not only is the “cite” from a “less than trustworthy source”, it also doesn’t actually back up the claim that was made.) To then use an editorial of another right wing rag as a cite? Pathetic. (ETA: And it _also_ doesn’t actually back the claim that was made) It’s been said before, and I’ll say it again: Get. Better. Sources. The only thing you convince anyone of with this is how gullible you are. ETA:I don’t know why I’m wasting my time humoring any of this, guess I’m just procrastinating on getting work done. > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Here’s another article from their website: Yes, it’s an article, just like the Business Insider article that you also posted. Are you saying that Business Insider is all in for implantable chips? ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4759 "2023-05-13T20:27:58Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The Pfizer CEO clip was from 2018, And he was talking about a pill with an embedded chip that would report back when the pill was ingested to ensure compliance. But that’s not what you asserted. In fact, it’s miles off. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4760 "2023-05-13T20:35:28Z")
Holy Mother of God! Are you this far gone or are you just trolling now? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4761 "2023-05-13T20:41:24Z")
It’s a bit scary. I watched my brother turn from an eccentric person who didn’t really trust the government into a full fledged Sov Cit over just a year or so. Sources that he is using are intended to lie and distort the truth in order to radicalize those of the more gullible persuasion. The best way to convince the gullible is to tell them how smart they are to believe you, and not what everyone else is saying. It’s rewarding and comforting to them, so they seek it out, more and more like a drug, until they no longer have a grasp on reality. Sam’s grasp on reality seems rather tenuous these days. And slipping fast. I hope he finds a way to ground himself and recover, but he’s never admitted to being wrong, and that’s the only way that he can. I expect he won’t last much longer, and he’ll either suicide by mod or flounce out. The next we hear about him will be on the news. I’ll actually miss him in threads about technology. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4762 "2023-05-13T20:45:21Z")
Well, he is still good on recent AI threads, but just being good in one subject does not work so well in others when his sources are crap. The way it is going, it will be 10 years from now where he will say that his misleading point about fertilizers in the Netherlands and in other places, **could** be wrong, until he reads about it… later… but never from better sources or people in the Netherlands who find that the right wing in the US fools a lot of people. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4763 "2023-05-13T21:38:24Z")
I’m shocked too. I didn’t think Sam was a fucking anti-vaxxer. 😫 This is a new low. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=237) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=239)