# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2023, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4864 "2023-05-17T03:32:23Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Elmo is now stanning the Neo-Nazi Texas mall shooter and claiming that just because he had multiple swastika and SS tattoos doesn’t mean he was racist.

Why can you not give just a mass murderer the benefit of the doubt that he might be a Hindu, hence the swastikas, and also proud of his Nordic roots, hence the Siegrune which he clearly was unaware of any association they had with the SS, Nazis, or White Supremacy? I mean it’s just as plausible of an explanation, and Elmo is a genius, donchaknow?

Hmmm, hang on a second, didn’t I just [read something recently in this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition/963442/4706) about Elmo responding to a report on declining birth rates in Nordic countries as “A collapsing birth rate is the biggest danger civilization faces by far”? Huh, it almost begs a comparison between Elmo personally combatting a collapsing Nordic birth rate by having 10 children of his own and the [_Lebensborn_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn) that Himmler had such a hard-on for and those [Crosses of Honour of the German Mother](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_Honour_of_the_German_Mother) the Nazis handed out to German women for birthing multiple children for the master race.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2023, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4865 "2023-05-17T08:05:40Z")

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[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwSiO6DXoAklGtI?format=jpg&name=small) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwSiO6DXoAklGtI?format=jpg&name=small)

If I was a Tesla stockholder I’d be pretty concerned about now.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2023, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4866 "2023-05-17T11:48:12Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> > Twitter has been repeatedly warned that it is not ready for the new rules, with breaches risking a fine of 6% of global turnover and, in the most extreme cases, a temporary suspension of the service.

So, if revenue is zero, there’s no fine? I think I see the plan…

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2023, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4867 "2023-05-17T12:05:46Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> If I was a Tesla stockholder I’d be pretty concerned about now.

And perhaps even before now!

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2023, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4868 "2023-05-17T12:19:53Z")

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And the interviewer didn’t really challenge him, either.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2023, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4869 "2023-05-17T15:45:28Z")

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What’s to challenge? He said what he said. Does anyone think he’ll backpedal, clarify, or tone down? Elmo is the smartest ballsiest guy in the room, and calling him out will ~~bring a beatdown~~ force him to storm out of the interview like a petulant 7-year-old.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2023, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4870 "2023-05-17T16:24:53Z")

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> [@Elon Musk paraphrased](#):
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> [@bellingcat](https://twitter.com/bellingcat) “does psy-ops” professionally.

I had to look this up, since it seemed strange for Musk to pick this particular target.

Apparently, the mall shooter - Mauricio Garcia - was [identified as a white supremacist by Bellingcat](https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2023/05/09/tracing-the-odnoklassniki-profile-of-the-texas-mall-shooter/). I presume that because the guy has a Latino-sounding name, many on the right decided that this identification must be nonsense.

> **[Is This a Photo of the Allen, Texas, Mall Shooter?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/allen-texas-mall-mass-shooting-nazi/)**
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> While some have raised doubts about it, the photograph comes with an absurd amount of identifying information.

There are some general rules in life like, “If you’re drinking before noon, you’re an alcoholic.” One of those is that if you’re getting slapped down in topics of the sort to attract Snopes, then you need to get off the internet, throw away the tabloids, and figure out a better way to live.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4871 "2023-05-18T05:23:57Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> There are some general rules in life like, “If you’re drinking before noon, you’re an alcoholic.”

Ah, but drink _What???_ And Noon _Where???_

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4872 "2023-05-18T05:47:56Z")

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Aha, because the catfish is **always** drinking.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2023, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4873 "2023-05-19T01:38:11Z")

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Elmo decrees “Stop calling me that thing I am!”

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwcSQ53WIAA_rMs.jpg) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwcSQ53WIAA_rMs.jpg)

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2023, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4874 "2023-05-19T01:44:43Z")

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Just to be clear, Elon = Doucebag Supremacist is OK. There is tons of evidence that is true.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2023, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4875 "2023-05-19T01:57:27Z")

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Agile Free-Speech-Absolutism.

(is it socially acceptable to call someone a “pedo guy”?)

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4876 "2023-05-19T02:08:58Z")

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Are we sure he still isn’t talking about the [REDACTED] Supremacist Texas Mall shooter? Because I mean come on, swastikas and Siegrunes aren’t unequivocal proof any anything. Just look at Elmo, he cosplays as Ironman in his profile pic, but he clearly isn’t Tony Stark. Maybe Mauricio Garcia was just cosplaying as a Nazi.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2023, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4877 "2023-05-19T02:48:50Z")

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It shouldn’t be socially acceptable to openly espouse racism or fascist insurrections as a legislator (or as anybody else, really), yet here we are anyway.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2023, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4878 "2023-05-19T03:01:45Z")

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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> Just look at Elmo, he cosplays as Ironman in his profile pic, but he clearly isn’t Tony Stark.

True, Tony Stark is a **heroic** douchey rich man-child, Elon is a **villainous** one.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2023, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4879 "2023-05-19T04:14:23Z")

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I’ve said it before. Thinks he’s real life Tony Stark, but is actually real life Ted Faro.

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**Author:** ![epbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@epbrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2023, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4880 "2023-05-19T04:35:02Z")

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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> Are we sure he still isn’t talking about the [REDACTED] Supremacist Texas Mall shooter?

I think it definitely is, after the CNBC interview he’s gotten some criticism for pushing back on that label. This will lead to more of that, since he’s had little (no?) problem with other false claims and made some himself, and it’s all “freedom of speech.”

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4881 "2023-05-20T00:29:52Z")

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AP reports that false claims that the 2020 election was rigged are thriving on Twitter.

Elmo responds by demanding they prove it.

His replies are immediately filled up by blue checks falsely claiming the election was rigged.

> <https://twitter.com/Eve6/status/1659699538393980932>

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4882 "2023-05-20T00:36:17Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> AP reports that false claims that the 2020 election was rigged are thriving on Twitter.

That would be called “Free Speech”. I’d much rather live in a world where speech ‘thrives’ than one in which the gatekeepers get to decide which thoughts are too dangerous for the proles to hear.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4883 "2023-05-20T00:53:55Z")

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I can see why you’d like that.

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