# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> Maybe that would be a swipe too far at Elmo who is ‘one of the body’ with TFGs crowd now, Mr. Stone might understand the dynamics of that whole thing better.

I doubt that. Remember that Trump is still trying to pretend that Truth social is a real competitor to twitter. So even if some of his supporters like Musk, he’s still the enemy (much like DeSantis).

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5005 "2023-06-02T02:18:43Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Agile turnover!

Elon Musk is showing the tech world that division heads aren’t necessary for more than a few months at a time. We can expect other companies to follow suit now that Musk has revealed this visionary new paradigm.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5006 "2023-06-02T02:40:54Z")

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That seemed to be Trump’s presidential leadership style as well: High leadership turnover = winning. He was agile before Musk made it popular.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5007 "2023-06-02T03:07:45Z")

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Okay, I’ve been wondering what the, “Agile”, thing is. I get the gist of what it means, but where did it come from?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5008 "2023-06-02T03:12:50Z")

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> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> but where did it come from?

A few thousand posts upthread, courtesy of our local Elmo fanboy;

> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> This is not ‘beta testing with the public’, it’s straight-up agile development. Build constantly, ship often, be prepared to roll back and refactor when things go wrong, get feedback from customers, iterate.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5009 "2023-06-02T03:24:40Z")

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Ahh, I though it might reference him. I just wasn’t sure how or when. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5010 "2023-06-02T04:01:28Z")

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And just to add to @Smapti’s post, agile development (aka agile project management) is a legitimate methodology, though not one that I personally happen to favour. The joke here is that it’s a riff on Elmo fanbois who use its rapid deployment model as a defense of a moron who has no idea what he’s doing and just rolls out major changes with no thought, no rationale, no plan, nothing but a gut feel for an ill-conceived harebrained scheme that inevitably backfires. Agile development, whether one endorses it or not, is actually a methodology. Elmo’s methodology isn’t “agile”, it’s more appropriately termed “asshole”, and its mantra is one that Elmo himself has stated in pretty much these words: “I’m rich and I can do whatever I want.”

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**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5011 "2023-06-02T04:13:27Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Elmo’s methodology isn’t “agile”, it’s more appropriately termed “asshole”

Agile asshole . . . or prehensile rectum[!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-bathroom-etiquette-memo-do-you-have-a-prehensile-rectum/75367)

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**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5012 "2023-06-02T04:33:05Z")

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Mmmmm, very grabby.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5013 "2023-06-02T11:20:17Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> That seemed to be Trump’s presidential leadership style as well: High leadership turnover = winning. He was agile before Musk made it popular.

I was going to make a joke about Trump and agility, but then it occurred to me that this is actually a good analogy. Apparently Trump was a decent baseball player at one point; the only thing stopping him from being a Hall of Famer was those cursed bone spurs. Musk built some decent companies. But now, Musk’s leadership style is the equivalent of drinking a bottle of water with two hands or driving a golf cart onto the green because one is too lazy to walk.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5014 "2023-06-02T11:30:35Z")

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> [@Steve\_McQwark](#):
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> Apparently Trump was a decent baseball player at one point; the only thing stopping him from being a Hall of Famer was those cursed bone spurs.

I’m sure you’ll be shocked to learn that Loser Donald’s claims of being a baseball great are bullshit.

> **[Was Donald Trump Good at Baseball?](https://slate.com/culture/2020/05/donald-trump-baseball-high-school-nyma.html)**
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> The president has long claimed he could have gone pro. We looked into it.

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> The first mention of Trump in an NYMA baseball story came during his sophomore year in 1962. “Don Trump made some fine fielding plays for Coach Ralph Petrillo’s NYMA club,” the final line of the story reads. In a 4–1 loss to Cheshire, Trump played first base, hit sixth, and went 0 for 3. I found three total box scores from his sophomore year. In those games, he went 1 for 10 at the plate.
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> His junior year, Trump went 2 for 10 in the three game stories I found in the archives. In Trump’s senior season, I couldn’t find much of any NYMA baseball coverage in the Evening News. But the Poughkeepsie Journal and Journal News had him hitting 1 for 9 in three games.
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> Combined, the nine box scores I unearthed give Trump a 4 for 29 batting record in his sophomore, junior, and senior seasons, with three runs batted in and a single run scored. Trump’s batting average in those nine games: an underwhelming .138. (I found one additional mention of a hit and another of a hitless game in games that didn’t have box scores.)

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I’m sure you’ll be shocked to learn that Loser Donald’s claims of being a baseball great are bullshit.

Almost all of Donald’s claims are bullshit. However, if he was playing on the varsity team as a sophomore, he had some skills, although hitting wasn’t apparently one of them.

Of course, depending on the size of the school, his skills could mostly have been he was a big target that could catch for the rest of the infield to throw the ball to.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5016 "2023-06-02T17:28:43Z")

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His batting average would have been .975 were it not for those deep state umpires who had it in for him.

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**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5017 "2023-06-02T19:09:01Z")

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Those pesky therapists who help trans kids not commit suicide? Lock 'em up and throw away the key, says Elon.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/OUMbXtF.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/OUMbXtF.png)

Just a friendly reminder, this is who you’re supporting by continuing to use the platform.

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So then every pediatrician or person who performs surgery on a child goes to prison. That newborn needs to have a tumor removed? Better not do it, that’s a capital offense.

But, Elon might say, those are helpful and necessary medical procedures! Oh, are they? Who is making that determination? Medical professionals or an adult spoiled rich brat?

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> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> Ahh, I though it might reference him. I just wasn’t sure how or when. Thanks.

FWIW, I had thought that it was more of a dig at [agile software development](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agile_software_development) in general than at Sam in particular. The industry is famous for poor planning and execution being passed off as “agile” (so long as you have a daily stand-up).

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**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5020 "2023-06-02T19:23:07Z")

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For the sake of completeness, we should note that Musk is saying that he’d like to ban circumcision, tattoos, piercings, or any form of plastic surgery on children.

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**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5021 "2023-06-02T19:32:45Z")

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The account in question literally has the word Parody in its name. Always has.

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**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5022 "2023-06-02T19:33:49Z")

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It’s not visible in the feed.

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**Author:** ![WalterBishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@WalterBishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WalterBishop)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5023 "2023-06-02T19:38:27Z")

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But if you click on any of the tweets you can see it clearly. Saying that Musk boosted a ‘Fake’ account instead of a parody account is just misleading. And I saw some of the tweets from that account, including the one Elon shared. You’d need to have a head full of rocks not too immediately twig that it was a parody.

Still, it doesn’t matter anymore anyway. The account’s been deleted.

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