# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 252
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5024 "2023-06-02T19:39:52Z")
MAGAs aren’t known for their ability to discern reality from parody. They also have cartoonishly ridiculous views about AOC. Who could have predicted that letting anyone have a blue check for money would cause confusion? ---
**Author:** ![WalterBishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@WalterBishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WalterBishop)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5025 "2023-06-02T19:44:13Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > MAGAs aren’t known for their ability to discern reality from parody. Heh, that’s true enough 😄 ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5026 "2023-06-02T19:48:08Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > For the sake of completeness, we should note that Musk is saying that he’d like to ban circumcision, tattoos, piercings, or any form of plastic surgery on children. For the sake of completeness that list must include things like heart surgery and cancerous tumor removal . . . but I’m quite certain we’ll hear that those are _different_ for _reasons_. ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5027 "2023-06-02T19:55:08Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > For the sake of completeness, we should note that Musk is saying that he’d like to ban circumcision … Note: Musk said “irreversible” changes. Those of us who’ve been around long enough will remember the Tug Ahoy and the great [Jack Dean Tyler](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jack-dean-tyler-jdt-j-dean-tyler-threads-bumper-pack-christmas-edition/42270). ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5028 "2023-06-02T19:57:21Z")
Are hair plugs irreversible changes? I remember when Elon was balding. What if he regrets having hair in the future? What then? ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5029 "2023-06-02T20:31:43Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > For the sake of completeness that list must include things like heart surgery and cancerous tumor removal . . . but I’m quite certain we’ll hear that those are _different_ for _reasons_. There’s a level of nitpicking and textualism that seems just as unreasonable as anything Musk has ever said. So while I’m not particularly on Musk’s side in any of this, I feel like it’s more reasonable to assume that he was talking about cosmetic procedures and nothing past that. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5030 "2023-06-02T20:51:42Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I feel like it’s more reasonable to assume that he was talking about cosmetic procedures and nothing past that. He is talking about therapy too - the thing that saved the life of more than one kid I know. Stop apologizing for him. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5031 "2023-06-02T20:54:19Z")
In **Sage\_Rat** ’s defense, there has never been a position he hasn’t been in favor of being on both sides of. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5032 "2023-06-02T20:56:22Z")
I am in love with the parody AOC account. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5033 "2023-06-02T21:06:22Z")
> [@Kron](#): > > In **Sage\_Rat** ’s defense, there has never been a position he hasn’t been in favor of being on both sides of. In the Pit, the average personality subtype seems to be one that’s either all love or all hate, with no nuance. If the goal is to pile on to John Wayne Gacy, then you’re a bad person and apologizer for saying that Gacy had no part in the murder of John F Kennedy. (He had no part in the murder of JFK.) I generally believe that if you feel the need to make up BS to attack someone, and can’t attack them for things that they actually, truthfully did, then you’re not confident in your position. You just want to be with the in-crowd and throw shit down the cliff with them. That’s not sufficient. > [@TroutMan](#): > > He is talking about therapy too - the thing that saved the life of more than one kid I know. Stop apologizing for him. I was addressing a discussion of how to read his statement on surgery. Nothing more and nothing less. And, I’ll note, in that discussion I was negative on what Musk said. We don’t need to imagine things that he didn’t say to dump on him. There’s enough real stuff there to complain about. Why waste effort on fake stuff? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5034 "2023-06-02T21:13:54Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > We don’t need to imagine things that he didn’t say to dump on him. So, you think Elon wants to criminalize circumcision? Or are we safe in assuming that Elon, and Peterson, only want to criminalize a very narrow set of surgeries? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5035 "2023-06-02T21:15:51Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > So, you think Elon wants to criminalize circumcision? Do I think Elon would like to criminalize a custom most closely associated with Jews and Muslims? No comment. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5036 "2023-06-02T21:18:22Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > We don’t need to imagine things that he didn’t say to dump on him. There’s enough real stuff there to complain about. Why waste effort on fake stuff? I’m not imagining anything. He said “absolutely” to a tweet that therapists should receive long prison sentences, “no parole, no mercy.” This was in the same conversation he said he would pursue criminalization of surgeries. You might wish to ignore the bit about therapists. But don’t then try to portray yourself as some brave defender of the little man who is being unfairly maligned. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5037 "2023-06-02T21:40:55Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > We don’t need to imagine things that he didn’t say to dump on him. There’s enough real stuff there to complain about. Why waste effort on fake stuff? ⁢ They didn’t. They were responding to what he said. You were the one who argued that he didn’t literally mean it, claiming we were being unfair. And you miss the point. Maybe he didn’t mean to leave out life-giving surgeries. But that’s what he said. This is common for bigots, where they hate minorities so much that they don’t realize their comment would also apply to people or things they care about. So even if he didn’t mean the full extent of what he said, he’s so bigoted that didn’t occur to him. It still makes sense to call him out for what he actually said. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5038 "2023-06-02T21:55:37Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > I am in love with the parody AOC account. Necrophiliac! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5039 "2023-06-02T22:01:59Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > So while I’m not particularly on Musk’s side in any of this, I feel like it’s more reasonable to assume that he was talking about cosmetic procedures and nothing past that. > [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I generally believe that if you feel the need to make up BS to attack someone, and can’t attack them for things that they actually, truthfully did, then you’re not confident in your position. You’re the one who is making assumptions about what Elon actually means, then dump on people who “need to make up BS”, people who are responding to **exactly what Elon said**. > [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > There’s a level of nitpicking and textualism that seems just as unreasonable as anything Musk has ever said. Elon is talking about wanting to make _laws_. Do you understand that you **have** to nitpick laws? What is in the letter of a law matters. If Elon is advocating a nonspecific law, then he’s advocating a shitty, dangerous law. But do you know why Elon isn’t being specific? Because he doesn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about. He’s not a medical professional. He doesn’t know the science. He is not involved in the treatment of children. He’s a wealthy manchild with a big platform spouting bullshit. Potentially dangerous bullshit that advocates for bigotry which is actively harming people, especially children. Your attempts to be the voice of reason just had you step on a rake, Sideshow Bob style. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5040 "2023-06-02T23:07:31Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > So, you think Elon wants to criminalize circumcision? No, I think he said something dumb without thinking it through. I just didn’t read any larger belief into his statement than that. But, it would at least be an arguable position if he did want to take it. If you try to argue that transgenderism is a popular fantasy then all the arguments you would use against it will butt up against other common popular fantasies that lead people to body modification - and which are protected by the first amendment. I’ll also note that in some decades, I won’t be surprised if Musk is trying to sell neuralink implants to children so… ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5041 "2023-06-03T00:12:02Z")
The head of brand safety and ad quality has also quit over Elmo’s desire to use his employees as pawns in his culture-war-fueled grudge against his ex. > **[Twitter's head of brand safety and ad quality to leave](https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitters-head-brand-safety-ad-quality-decides-leave-wsj-2023-06-02/)** > > Twitter's head of brand safety and ad quality, A.J. Brown, has decided to leave the company, according to a source familiar with the matter on Friday, the second safety leader to depart in a matter of days. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5042 "2023-06-03T00:37:44Z")
> Twitter and Brown did not immediately respond to Reuters’ requests for comment What, no 💩 emoji? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5043 "2023-06-03T01:18:16Z")
Twitter is now worth $6.5 billion. > **[Fidelity: Twitter worth $6.55 billion, not $44 billion it was sold for](https://www.king5.com/article/news/nation-world/twitter-worth-one-third-what-musk-paid-for-it/507-4ac1bc60-9852-4b25-b2fc-d070633877d1?fbclid=IwAR2cJwd11A1LmJTWT5m-1eYMmgkNVhlzJkGaf1anN0Ye2fL9g2ct2C77GW4)** > > Elon Musk took control of Twitter in October, after a protracted legal battle and months of uncertainty. Agile devaluation! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=251) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=253)