# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 257
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5124 "2023-06-11T22:01:38Z")
Is this thread about Twitter? Maybe we need a new thread to complain about all things Musk, Tesla, and self-driving in general. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5125 "2023-06-11T22:48:00Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > AutoCAD Automobile Computer-Aided Driving ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5126 "2023-06-11T22:51:30Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > That was just on the first Google page. Likewise: > **[6 people stung to death by killer bees after bus plummets into hive](https://nypost.com/2023/05/10/6-people-stung-to-death-by-killer-bees-after-bus-plummets-into-hive/)** > > All passengers reportedly survived the initial crash, but the bus disturbed a swarm of killer Africanized bees. > **[One man dead after hundreds of stings from Arizona bee swarm](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/31/arizona-bee-swarm-man-died-stings)** > > Two people required hospital treatment after being stung, with a large open hive thought to weigh 100lb found nearby > **[Landscaper Killed by Swarm of Bees While Suspended in Harness](https://www.newsweek.com/landscaper-killed-swarm-bees-while-suspended-harness-1708872)** > > Witnesses described how firefighters had to use their hose to clear away the vast amount of bees that were swarming around 53-year-old Franco Galvan Martinez. Or, as they say, anecdote is not data. Bee deaths happen. They’re not a significant concern. Saying that something can happen doesn’t mean that it’s a significant issue. You need more analysis than saying, “It does not achieve mankind’s perfect ideal.” ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5127 "2023-06-12T00:18:54Z")
Bringing it back around to original topic of the pitting… > **[Musk on path to turn Twitter into the next MySpace or Yahoo, co-founder suggests](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/06/musk-on-path-to-turn-twitter-into-the-next-myspace-or-yahoo-co-founder-suggests/)** > > Ev Williams: Generally, "the new thing does not come from the old thing." MySpace. Harsh. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5128 "2023-06-12T05:16:29Z")
Elmo is apparently taking his legal advice from the same people who told Donald Trump that the way to win a lawsuit is to tweet about how guilty you are, thereby winning Internet Points. > ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5129 "2023-06-12T15:33:10Z")
I have a mental image of Eloon being asked point-blank whether he order the discriminatory policies and giving an answer that would make Colonel Jessup sound like Mister Rogers. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5130 "2023-06-12T15:57:20Z")
So his defense is “I’m a shitty employer!”? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5131 "2023-06-12T17:50:51Z")
Sounds like it. “I’m equally shitty to everyone I hire!” Thanks for pointing that out, Elon. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5132 "2023-06-12T19:27:31Z")
Elon has a new plan to reduce DM spam > Given the ridiculous number of fake storefronts with blue checks advertising on twitter I’m sure this will have absolutely no impact on DM spam. Also, if you’re an artist on Twitter how do you take commissions? That’s right, via unsolicited DMs from people you don’t follow. I’m sure this will work out for them. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5133 "2023-06-13T05:22:29Z")
Even ignoring that spammers can easily afford to pay the $8, but that also makes Twitter less useful for people to use to contact creators. Any creator who didn’t find that aspect useful never enabled DMs in the first place. Twitter users don’t tend to follow those who follow them. Twitter is asymmetrical. That’s its strength as its place for creators, brands, companies, etc. They can have many more followers than people they follow, allowing them to get out their messages to more people. And those are the types who are most likely to have DMs enabled. Twitter isn’t Facebook (which had to add separate brand pages and groups and such for the same purpose). ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5134 "2023-06-13T18:39:55Z")
What’s personally baffling to me is that years ago, I was a part-timer on T-Mobiles Net-based tech support /customer service options (I was full time tech support, but part time on that specific team). Which meant you go go online, @ us, and we’d take you to a DM to verify your account and then help you, same as if you’d called. Because, we didn’t want to go over your account details in a general thread, for damn good reason. So if I understand the current plan, that would no longer be an option for the customer if they don’t pay for the option and/or you’d have to ask TMUS to follow you in order to use it? Don’t know if that team still functions, but it should illustrate yet another reason why this idea of Eloon’s is a (checks forum) STUPID BEYOND FUCKING BELIEF. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5135 "2023-06-13T18:59:45Z")
I’d assume they’d have to tell them to go to their website and contact them there. Musk apparently doesn’t see the advantage of having so much communication going through his site. That’s one thing he did. People don’t argue that Twitter is effectively a public forum anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5136 "2023-06-13T19:55:43Z")
Oh, he sees the advantage of having communication go through his site. Where he’s always tripped over himself is thinking he can somehow force such communication - even when one party is unwilling, and especially when he is one end of it - and/or monetize that access. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5137 "2023-06-14T00:57:32Z")
Google promoted this article about a Twitter alternative, Bluesky: > **[Some unhappy Twitter users are turning to Bluesky, another site from Jack Dorsey](https://www.npr.org/2023/06/09/1181406811/some-unhappy-twitter-users-are-turning-to-bluesky-another-site-from-jack-dorsey)** > > As Twitter has become less reliable, the social media site Bluesky is getting a lot of attention as an alternative. Bluesky is still small, but it was started by Jack Dorsey, who also founded Twitter. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5138 "2023-06-15T13:10:29Z")
Twitter is being evicted from its Colorado office for not paying the rent. > **[Musk red-faced as Twitter evicted over unpaid rent](https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/elon-musk-red-faced-as-twitter-employees-evicted-over-unpaid-rent/ar-AA1cykYl)** > > The landlord and Twitter signed a lease for the four building suites back in February 2020, but court documents show that the firm failed to pay its rent. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5139 "2023-06-15T13:28:48Z")
I doubt that Musk is in the least embarrassed by his actions. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5140 "2023-06-15T13:37:16Z")
Why would he? **He** still has whatever office he wants. And really, the only thing that matters is Elon Musk. Next up: Elmo fires everyone in the Denver office because they refuse to work in the office. ---
**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5141 "2023-06-15T16:17:25Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > Next up: Elmo fires everyone in the Denver office because they refuse to work in the office. Nit: Boulder ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5142 "2023-06-15T17:18:01Z")
Double nit: Denver, because Elmo. He doesn’t care about that distinction. Denver’s probably the only city in Colorado knows. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5143 "2023-06-15T17:32:31Z")
Come on, everybody knows South Park. (We actually had a customer in South Park when I did tech support for a medical software company. We had many jokes amongst the support staff at my company.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=256) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=258)