# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 259
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5165 "2023-06-17T02:25:35Z")
Welcome Old Man Winter, you’re about 6 months late but better late than never! ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5167 "2023-06-17T02:54:38Z")
😆 I think you’ll fit in nicely here. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5168 "2023-06-17T02:59:50Z")
> [@Old\_Man\_Winter](#): > > > Ad spend in ‘several categories’ is up 40% year over year, including healthcare, consumer devices and investment services. > > So…supplement scams, cheap plasticky crap, and crypto scams? So, you’re seeing increases in the type of advertising that Twitter would have previously refused to carry? Good catch on translating what those categories most likely mean. Considering the number of Elmo fanbois who are also cryptobros it seems a logical place for the increased advertising looking for suckers to scam or rug pull. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5169 "2023-06-17T03:00:09Z")
…the video player on Twitter has gotten objectively worse since Musk took over. Often it won’t play at all unless you click on the actual tweet. And if the video is over a year old, sometimes the video won’t play past the first few seconds, or it will play the whole thing at comically sped up. And every so often, the video player gets temporarily replaced by a different video player (I think its pushed out to a limited number of users only for testing, so you might not have seen it) that is obviously the one that they are working on to replace the current player, but it is just terrible. Its designed for “engagement”, and swiping it takes you to another “related video” on a random (often ideologically opposed) person’s tweet. Tapping the new player removes the player controls (like the existing player) but there is no way to bring the controls back again unless you quit-out-of-the-tweet. It just doesn’t work the way you want a video player to work. And of course: I think the “10% of the time on Twitter is spent watching video” is made up. Just like “we’ve gotten rid of all of the CP and the spam.” There is a long history of [social media networks making up video metrics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pivot_to_video). This has always been something Musk has wanted to do. Its his “everything app.” ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5170 "2023-06-17T03:13:21Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Ad spend in ‘several categories’ is up 40% year over year, including healthcare, (Penis pumps) > [@](#): > > consumer devices, (Junk from Chinese scammers) > [@](#): > > and investment services. (Bitcoin and NFT scams) Really, this is a meaningless statistic. Musk should be embarrassed to include it in a presentation, and you should be embarrassed to brag about it here. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5171 "2023-06-17T03:43:00Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > you should be embarrassed to brag about it here. _Narrator: He wasn’t._ ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5172 "2023-06-17T03:46:30Z")
Porn/OnlyFans advertising is certainly up, although, I don’t think they are paying for it. Instead, they’re just finding every soccer match on the planet and including that match’s hashtag in their tweets. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5173 "2023-06-17T05:41:57Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Welcome Old Man Winter, you’re about 6 months late Seems right on time to me … ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5174 "2023-06-17T16:54:42Z")
It’s like a shopping center flexing because it now has three times as many Halloween stores. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5175 "2023-06-17T20:48:11Z")
Bluesky is a federated model like Mastodon, from what I can tell. There’s an awful lot to like about that - decentralization, no one owns the algorithms, no centralized content moderation or censorship, anti-fragile to takedowns. I would love to see it take over, or at least be a serious peer competitor to Twitter. Unfortunately, federated social media models have all been very hard to implement in ways the users like. Too much early friction, too much confusion over what’s going on, etc. The article is kind of a hit piece though. Bluesky has about 100,000 users. Twitter has 353 million. Bluesky has 2 million on a waiting list, apparently. These are tiny numbers for social media, and they admit in the article that the current users are mostly hard-core nerds, reporters, politicians, etc. They aren’t the typical users. We’ll have to see if they can attract them. Bluesky is currently no threat at all to Twitter. Hopefully one day it will be, as competition is always good. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5176 "2023-06-17T20:50:44Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > (Penis pumps) I haven’t seen any of those. Our search history must be different. > [@TroutMan](#): > > Really, this is a meaningless statistic. Musk should be embarrassed to include it in a presentation, and you should be embarrassed to brag about it here. I take it you’ve never seen a quarterly financial presentation before? ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5177 "2023-06-18T00:54:50Z")
> **[Twitter metrics claim 1 billion people saw this meme-inducing tweet — and...](https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-metrics-draw-questions-tweet-1-billion-views-2023-6)** > > This might be the most-viewed tweet ever. But it also might not. Did 1.1 billion people really see it? Bug or intentional inflation? I’d be a bit concerned if I were an advertiser either way. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5178 "2023-06-18T01:03:27Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Ad spend in ‘several categories’ is up 40% year over year, including healthcare, consumer devices and investment services. Let me translate that for you: Ad spend is up in boner pills, The Genuine Pocket Pussy and also Multi Level Marketing Schemes. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5179 "2023-06-18T01:28:29Z")
> User @tamsully12 had their DMs turned off, and didn’t immediately respond to a public tweet from Insider. Twitter didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment following a recent [change in policy on how the company interacts with the press.](https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-automatically-responds-to-press-emails-with-a-poop-emoji-2023-3) lolpoopemoji Elmo! ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5180 "2023-06-18T13:25:53Z")
> **[Twitter Runs Ads for Disney, Microsoft, NBA Alongside Neo-Nazi Videos](https://gizmodo.com/twitter-ads-disney-microsoft-nba-neo-nazi-videos-elon-1850549017)** > > Ads from household-name brands and nonprofits are appearing beside clips of a film blaming Jews for causing World War II. It is amazing to me that these brands are will to have their ads shown next to literal neo-Nazi filth. They must be getting one heck of a occasional Nazi association discount. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5181 "2023-06-18T14:21:51Z")
Likely they have no scheduling control over where the ads are run, and Elmo’s remaining troops are slotting them in everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5182 "2023-06-18T14:49:12Z")
Certainly that’s the case, but it would seem to me that if I were Disney the first time my ads were next to neo-Nazi stuff, then that would be the end of my advertising with Twitter. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5183 "2023-06-18T17:08:50Z")
I don’t disagree, and I’m wondering if anyone has made them aware of it yet. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5184 "2023-06-18T17:21:18Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Ad spend is up in boner pills, The Genuine Pocket Pussy and also Multi Level Marketing Schemes. Man, your search history is REALLY different from mine. “Twitter Runs Ads for Disney, Microsoft, NBA”… Who knew Disney was selling boner bills, Microsoft sells the genuine pocket pussy and the NBA is a multi-level-marketing scheme. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5185 "2023-06-18T18:18:30Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > [Twitter Runs Ads for Disney, MSFT, NBA Beside Neo-Nazi Videos](https://gizmodo.com/twitter-ads-disney-microsoft-nba-neo-nazi-videos-elon-1850549017) > > It is amazing to me that these brands are will to have their ads shown next to literal neo-Nazi filth. They must be getting one heck of a occasional Nazi association discount. You’re doing it wrong, the esteemed Mr. Stone shows us the correct way to parse this a few posts later: > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Man, your search history is REALLY different from mine. > > “Twitter Runs Ads for Disney, Microsoft, NBA”… > > Who knew Disney was selling boner bills, Microsoft sells the genuine pocket pussy and the NBA is a multi-level-marketing scheme. I was going to make a joke that the correct way to parse the news is that ad revenue from neo-Nazis videos is up infinity percent under Elmo’s leadership, but once again Mr. Stone outdoes himself in a way no one could have imagined. Was it the result of deliberately parsing the title of the article or was Sam just too lazy to bother reading the entire name of the cite this time? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=258) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=260)